would this kill the tip-or-flip screen argument?

how would a top-pivot articulating screen work for you?

  • better than now but w/some issues.

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  • so crazy it might work!

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Just checking. If the pivot point were anchored to the top, tip people could treat it like a Sony or the GX850, just tip and be satisfied.
Full articulators could set up as they please - but a few might find interference with a hot-shoe flash.

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Pivoting at the top loses one of the ways I use a tilt screen -- namely when I'm in a crowd, and I'm holding the camera in my hands (or using a monopod) to shoot over the crowds and I have the screen pointing down, so that I can see the picture.
 

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If the screen can both tilt and swivel, then haven't we addressed both crowd's concerns? So why vote?
 

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I dislike being off center, where the lens and screen are out of alignment. Tilt is my preference, with the S1/S1R dual tilt after that. People started a change.org petition to persuade Pana to go full twist, which they did with the S5.

Good point Michael, I do so few crowd scenes that I failed you. :(
 

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I detest fully-articulated screens, but I have one of each on my Lumixes.

For me, the better option was the downward-flipping screen of the Olympus E-PL7 - to this day, one of the nicest, most-robustly built screens I've used. It was much easier to use face-forwards than the overhead-flipping screen of others I've tried. But that gets in the way for tripod users.

Also, Fujifilm came up with a winning screen on the X-T100: tilt up/down and flip 180°. That was perfect. Fools changed it on the next version.
Pivoting at the top loses one of the ways I use a tilt screen -- namely when I'm in a crowd, and I'm holding the camera in my hands (or using a monopod) to shoot over the crowds and I have the screen pointing down, so that I can see the picture.
This is a point I've given consideration to, and think a work-around is to hold the camera upside down. Not perfect, but an option.
 

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If a screen with a top mount pivot can be rotated by 180 degrees, it could still be angled down to allow the user to see over tall obstructions, just like holding a camera with a side pivoted screen in portrait orientation. The problem is the the VF eyecup usually protrudes beyond the vertical plane of the screen, which would obstruct a top mount pivot, so the VF would need to be moved.
 

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Just make two versions of every camera. One for the flippers and one for those who like to swivel.

They had better not charge any more for the camera bodies either. Just because I've increased their production costs - a retail price hit is unjustified.

This is obviously a brilliant idea. Thank you.
 

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Just make two versions of every camera. One for the flippers and one for those who like to swivel.

They had better not charge any more for the camera bodies either. Just because I've increased their production costs - a retail price hit is unjustified.

This is obviously a brilliant idea. Thank you.
I think you've hit upon the obvious answer.

I'm writing up a proposal for a Constitutional amendment that I'm sending to my senators now.

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I often take photos while holding my camera high over my head or even extending it on a monopod. I also often take photos with the camera on or near the ground. I sold my beloved Gx7s primarily because the Gx8s don't constrain my photographic style. I'm willing to take large and clunky to get a screen that works for me.
 

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Must be honest, I rather liked the flexibility and design of the screen mechanism when I had my Sony A77ii.
Take a look and see - (scroll halfway down to see the action) -

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/sony-a77-ii/sony-a77-iiTECH.HTM
I agree that this is a very flexible design.

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Still, the simple tilt screen on my E-M1.1 suits my needs 99.9% of the time; the only times I've
been limited by it is when I'm attempting to shoot in portrait orientation with the camera either above my head or down low.

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Still, the simple tilt screen on my E-M1.1 suits my needs 99.9% of the time; the only times I've
been limited by it is when I'm attempting to shoot in portrait orientation with the camera either above my head or down low.
Agreed, love the E-M1.1 tilt screen. It also seems much more sturdy/durable than a lot of articulating screen designs.

As to overhead portrait orientation, it doesn't look like that Sony design would accommodate that? Looks more like a tilt screen that also becomes a selfie screen, but not tilting when in portrait orientation.
 

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The Sony idea is clever, but I see things like that and my first thoughts are 'more to go wrong'.
Yes. Previous to the E-M1.1 I had the Oly E-3 which had the articulating screen. Besides not being able to simply tilt it out for a quick shot without fully deploying it out to the side, the way it stuck out on the side (like an old camcorder) always made me nervous of how "exposed" it was to damage if you should accidentally bump it. You know, physics, lever arm x force kind of stuff.
 

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Agreed, love the E-M1.1 tilt screen. It also seems much more sturdy/durable than a lot of articulating screen designs.

As to overhead portrait orientation, it doesn't look like that Sony design would accommodate that? Looks more like a tilt screen that also becomes a selfie screen, but not tilting when in portrait orientation.

Once you have the screen overhead, you can turn it 360 and also have it facing you and tilted down so that overhead photography is easy.
 

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