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Wide Angle Lens Recommendation

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by dbzkid777, Jan 22, 2015.

  1. dbzkid777

    dbzkid777 Mu-43 Regular

    55
    Jul 26, 2014
    Current gear is:

    Daylight:
    -E-M10
    -12-40mm (f/ 2.8), 45mm (f/ 1.8)

    Night:
    -E-M1
    -45mm (f/ 1.8), 12-40mm (f/ 2.8)(in winter nights only)

    Looking for a wide angle prime, should I get the 12mm or 17mm or wait for the 7-14mm (f/ 2.8)?
    Then again would the f/ 2.8 on the 7-14mm be good enough for the night??

    Thanks for your opinions even if there are 98574876587x threads on gear.
     
  2. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    The Oly 12/2 is highly regarded. 17/1.8 FOV is like that of a 35mm, so probably not what you are looking for. There are also various fisheye lenses 9mm f/8 Olympus and the Samyang/Rokinon f/3.5 types - all manual focus, though.

    If you want it now, look at the Oly 9-18 or the Panasonic 7-14.
     
  3. Shifty

    Shifty Mu-43 Regular

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    Dec 30, 2014
    Oklahoma City
    Yeah, right on. The 17mm is just like a 35mm FOV and although I LOVE it, it's certainly not wide enough for me all the time, so I very much doubt if that will hit it on the head for you. I couldn't comment on the others...but I guess the 7-14mm sounds wild.
     
  4. Nam-in-Sonoma

    Nam-in-Sonoma Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 23, 2012
    Penngrove, CA
    Nam
    Unless you shoot action or people at night, you don't need fast lens...all you need is good tripod. Only time you need fast lens is shooting Milky Way to avoid noise by going up on ISO so the stars won't move. You already have a 12mm and 17mm with your 12-40mm F2.8 set your lens at that focal length and try just to shoot one that just with that field of view.
     
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  5. Drdave944

    Drdave944 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 2, 2012
    Words of wisdom. One thing seldom mentioned is the power of M43 cameras on a light tripod. Due to the decreased mass and touch screen,you can get great dark performance. People don't know the technology they already have and look for something over the rainbow.
     
  6. aidanw

    aidanw Mu-43 Regular

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    Nov 19, 2012
    Wellington, NZ
    For a super wide-angle view, I can't recommend the Rokinon/Samyang 7.5mm highly enough.
    It is one of (if not the) sharpest lens I own, and that includes P14, P20, PL25, and other primes and zooms.

    The manual focus is only a minor drawback as generally the depth of focus is so huge that you don't need to change it. I check it once when I pull it out of my bag, to make sure it hasn't been knocked way off, and then don't usually change it while using it.

    The distortion is strong and does mean that some scenes don't suit the super wide view, although sometimes stepping back slightly or making sure the horizon is near the middle of the frame can reduce this, depending on what you're shooting.

    This lens has replaced my O17 and PL25 as day-to-day, just for the sheer fun of it. And it's cheap!
     
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  7. jasjb

    jasjb Mu-43 Regular

    52
    Mar 28, 2014
    For daytime or still scenes, the Pano 12-32mm kit lens is actually pretty good. Smaller than the competition, and doubles as a good video lens.

    I'd keep an eye on the Oly 9-18mm, since it's getting cheaper on the second hand market, especially now there is a new Oly Pro coming out.
     
  8. KBeezie

    KBeezie Mu-43 Top Veteran

    694
    Sep 15, 2012
    Grand Rapids, Mi
    Karl Blessing
    I'm just going to throw this out there because while it probably has more cons than pros compared to the various other wides (ie: Samyan 7.5, Oly 12/2.0, etc), it's also $100, easily portable, and little need to focus.

    But when used under tailored conditions, The olympus 9mm f/8 can produce rather nice results, it's major pitfall is not distortion or in general sharpness, but simply that it's f/8 (4 stops slower than a f/2.0).

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    But if I don't need it that wide, I'm actually rather content with the Olympus 17mm f/2.8 that came with my E-P3, which I noticed you do not have:

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  9. agentlossing

    agentlossing Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jun 26, 2013
    Andrew Lossing
    The 17mm f2.8 can sometimes be found for $100 used, which is virtually the cost of the 9mm body cap lens!

    GX1•EP1•GF3•9mmBCL•17mm2.8•30mm2.8
     
  10. barry13

    barry13 Super Moderator; Photon Wrangler

    Mar 7, 2014
    Southern California
    Barry
    For AF, there's a Oly ZD 4/3 8mm, and I think Pana has a mu43 fisheye.

    Barry
     
  11. KBeezie

    KBeezie Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Sep 15, 2012
    Grand Rapids, Mi
    Karl Blessing
    At 8mm, even for micro-4/3rd crop, is there much of a need for autofocus other than getting less than a foot away from the main subject?
     
  12. barry13

    barry13 Super Moderator; Photon Wrangler

    Mar 7, 2014
    Southern California
    Barry
    My 9mm @f8 needs focus for under 10 ft or so, it has a manual focus lever with a scale.

    Barry
     
  13. KBeezie

    KBeezie Mu-43 Top Veteran

    694
    Sep 15, 2012
    Grand Rapids, Mi
    Karl Blessing
    My Olympus 9mm f/8 doesn't need focusing under 10ft, it's only when you get under ~1.5-2ft that you need to move the lever from the middle to near focus (As it only has three focusing settings, near, everything else, or infinity).

    Hence why I was wondering. And even then the DOF is so wide AF seems somewhat pointless compared to MF.
     
  14. MarkRyan

    MarkRyan Instagram: @MRSallee

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    May 3, 2013
    California
    What are you not getting with your 12-40 that you want in a new wide angle lens? The 12mm prime is only one stop faster than your zoom.
     
  15. dbzkid777

    dbzkid777 Mu-43 Regular

    55
    Jul 26, 2014
    I feel like f/2.8 just doesn't take in as much light as I don't shoot with tripods when I'm on the run.
     
  16. KBeezie

    KBeezie Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Sep 15, 2012
    Grand Rapids, Mi
    Karl Blessing
    there's only a 1 stop difference between f/2.8 and f/2.0 if you're mainly concerned about light getting in.

    That's basically going from ISO 400 to 200
    or 1/60th to 1/125th

    Handheld 1/60th + IS would be sufficient for 12mm. If you're shooting in conditions where it's not bright enough for 1/60th f/2.8 @ ISO 800 or under, you probably won't solve the issue with a lens, or least not to your full satisfaction.

    Depends on what you're shooting, action? architecture? landscape? street? etc?
     
  17. zensu

    zensu An Old Fool

    Aug 8, 2012
    Southeastern USA
    Bobby
    Yes the Panny 8mm f3.5 FE does have AF and is a great lens.
    What happened to the rumored Oly 9mm f1.8 that is supposed to be released this year. Rumors never said if it was a Rectilinear or Fish Eye. I hope they do release it because m43s needs some very wide fast primes!
    Bobby
     
  18. KBeezie

    KBeezie Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Sep 15, 2012
    Grand Rapids, Mi
    Karl Blessing
    9mm f/1.8 would be quite a feat if it's distortion are minimal (would probably also be a chunk of glass too).
     
  19. barry13

    barry13 Super Moderator; Photon Wrangler

    Mar 7, 2014
    Southern California
    Barry
    I was having to focus for environmental portraits, but I was very close, so you're probably right.

    Keep in mind a real lens won't be f8, so it would need a bit more focusing.

    Barry
     
  20. KBeezie

    KBeezie Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Sep 15, 2012
    Grand Rapids, Mi
    Karl Blessing
    A real lens?

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