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Why no 70-200 2.8?

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by tosvus, Jan 23, 2015.

  1. tosvus

    tosvus Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jan 4, 2014
    Why hasn't Panasonic or Olympus come out with a faster lens in a focal length like 70-200? It seems to me this would play to the strengths of the micro four thirds format. Sure, it is a bit of an odd zoom range if you compare to FF equivalents, but why not? Longer reach of the lenses is why I like the idea of m43 with it's 2x crop in the first place.

    I own the P35-100 2.8 and find it great but too short. I also recently purchased the P100-300 and I am underwhelmed with the quality (maybe I have poor technique, maybe I have a bad copy..), and speed. I also realize I am usually ok to get to around 200mm. The Olympus 40-150 is still too short, and since I have a Panasonic body, the lack of OIS is pretty much a deal killer for me as well.

    Heck, I'd be happy if Sigma just put a m43 mount on their excellent 70-200 2.8. They have made some other m43 lenses in the past, so that would be great. It also has OIS. With a m43 native mount one would also get AF.

    I'll probably wait a while to see if anyone steps up, otherwise, I may bite the bullet and get a Metabones m43-canon adapter (electronic) and a Sigma. It will suck a bit not to have AF, but I suspect for the kind of shots I take, it would be workable.

    Anyone else vote for a fast 70-200 lens though??
     
  2. Halaking

    Halaking Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Dec 17, 2012
    Los Angeles
    Morris
    Try Metabone lens adapters and put the lenses you want from other brands.
     
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  3. tosvus

    tosvus Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jan 4, 2014
    Yes, it is definitely an option. I do prefer the possibility of using AF though, so a native lens would be better. That said, maybe this is the opportunity I need to start learning focusing faster manually...

    The side-effect is that if I start getting lenses for Canon (which has the best adapter), it may lead me down the path of trying out Canon bodies, and buying more lenses in that format. It would be smarter for the m43 guys to give us enough options so we stay with m43 ;)
     
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  4. barry13

    barry13 Super Moderator; Photon Wrangler

    Mar 7, 2014
    Southern California
    Barry
    1. Sigma made it in 4/3 mount, will work best on the E-M1 with PDAF.

    2. ZD 50-200mm f2.8-3.5, also PDAF.
    Comes in SWD and original.

    Barry
     
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  5. tosvus

    tosvus Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jan 4, 2014
    Thanks Barry, I have to check those out! 3.5 on the long end for the ZD isn't too bad either! I may get the EM-1 (or successor) at some point, but for now, even slow focus as a possibility would be great!

    EDIT: Too bad the Sigma doesn't have the OIS though! (I wasn't expecting the Olympus to have it of course)
     
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    wjiang Mu-43 Hall of Famer

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  7. RamblinR

    RamblinR Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 16, 2012
    Sunshine Coast, Qld Australia
    Maria
    What about adding the 1.4x adapter to the 40-150 f2.8 which makes it 56-210 at f4.
     
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  8. wjiang

    wjiang Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    It's not f/2.8 then... what we're talking about is an f/2.8 lens.
     
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  9. Klorenzo

    Klorenzo Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 10, 2014
    Lorenzo
    With the sigma 70-200 and a metabone adapter does the lens optical stabilization work?
     
  10. tosvus

    tosvus Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jan 4, 2014
    Thanks for the suggestions. It would be ideal to have ois working, and also staying at 2.8.

    In regards to the canon metabones adapter, yes it should work with ois, so I expect the sigma would too.
     
  11. SkiHound

    SkiHound Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jan 28, 2012
    And with the 1.4 tele-extender the 40-150 f/2.8 basically becomes an f/4 version of that lens.
     
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  12. Rasmus

    Rasmus Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Nov 16, 2013
    Stockholm, Sweden.
    Also don't forget the 90-250/2.8. It's a monster, but you'll certainly get the reach and the speed you want. It's not cheap though...
     
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  13. RoadTraveler

    RoadTraveler Mu-43 All-Pro

    Nov 23, 2012
    OP, your thread and question is helping me consider the Olympus 1.4x teleconverter.

    Though I own and use the 100-300 (sparingly) when I need the reach, I much prefer the 45-175 if it will do the job. To stay light and carry less lenses on trips I'd like to add the 45-175 for when the 35-100 is not enough. I must say, I love my 35-100 f/2.8 and use it more and to better effect than I did the Canon L f/2.8 I owned for several years.

    Assuming the 1.4x Olympus will work with the Panasonic 45-175?
     
  14. bikerhiker

    bikerhiker Mu-43 All-Pro

    Dec 24, 2013
    Canada
    David
    Have you considered getting a used E-3 or E-5 and then the Zuiko 50-200 and forget about the adapters? You get fast AF and all the electronics. The E-3 and E-5 have IBIS built-in. The E-5 IBIS is very useful and effective (about 3 stops) and I can safely hold a long lens like my slow 70-300 and get sharp images @200 to 300mm which was not possible with my E-1 unless it's on my monopod. I was fortunate enough to have bought a used E-5 in good condition for $300; sort of like the poor man's version of the E-M1 with weather sealing intended for long reach action stuff. I can just rent a 50-200 or 90-250 when I need them through our local lens rental outlet to shoot action and I pair it with my E-P5 usually with primes for wider and low light shots with its better 5 axis IBIS. Best $300 I ever spent!!
     
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  15. EarthQuake

    EarthQuake Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Sep 30, 2013
    No, it only works with the 40-150/2.8. Will likely work with the 300/4 as well, it will not physically mount on the 45-175mm due to the front element of the 1.4x tc that extends into the lens.
     
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  16. tosvus

    tosvus Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jan 4, 2014
    Actually that's a really good idea!
     
  17. shermanshen

    shermanshen Mu-43 Regular

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    Jul 28, 2014
    I can appreciate the gains in reach that a 70-200 would offer, but as many have pointed out, the 1.4x TC kind of solves that problem. For me, I'd be much more interested in Olympus making a m43 version of their 35-100mm f2. The current f2.8 zooms are great, but are still a little slow when it comes to photography with poor lighting conditions. Having an f2 zoom would do so much in terms of depth of field control as well as superior light gathering ability. Just my two cents!
     
  18. hookgrip

    hookgrip Mu-43 Regular

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    May 21, 2013
    The reason is that there isn't really a market for such a lens.

    The Panasonic 35-100 f/2.8 already costs $1,499 at B&H and it's an f/5.6 equivalent lens for DOF purposes. A m4/3 70-200 f/2.8 could easily cost more than the full-frame equivalents from Canon and Nikon, and that that point I don't feel like there would be many buyers for the lens beyond a niche group of hardcore m4/3 enthusiasts with deep wallets.
     
  19. Talanis

    Talanis Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Oct 15, 2012
    Sherbrooke, Canada
    Eric Cote
    I agree that it would be great. We need faster long lenses. A 100-300 constant f/4 would be nice too especially if you could use a TC with it. I have the Panasonic 100-300mm but at f/5.6, you need to crank the ISO quite a bit to get good speed for birds. It will be interesting to see the price of the Olympus 300mm and I hope we can use the TC with it. I would like Panasonic to upgrade is 100-300 to a faster lens though.
     
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  20. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium
    buy an EM-1 and pick up an old 50-200 zuiko... go for the the SWD versions

    OK it f3.5 at the long end but hey go shopping for a 400m f/4 for canon or nikon and compare size and price

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