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Why is the Panny 14-45mm lens being superseded by the 14-42mm?

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by LudwigVB, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. LudwigVB

    LudwigVB Mu-43 Rookie

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    Aug 14, 2012
    I just bought, for use with my G3, a Panasonic 14-45mm lens having done some research that seems to indicate that it is superipr to the Panasonic 14-42mm. I'm quite surprised that Panny has seen fit to offer the 14-42, these days, as a kit lens in preference to the 14-45. Anyone have any idea why they should do this? Could it just be to save costs?
     
  2. Steven

    Steven Mu-43 All-Pro

    May 25, 2012
    USA
    it probably costs less to make. so more profit for them :cool: 
     
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  3. MAubrey

    MAubrey Photographer

    Jul 9, 2012
    Bellingham, WA
    Mike Aubrey
    Yes.
     
  4. dd1

    dd1 Mu-43 Regular

    61
    Sep 9, 2011
    Having used both, the 14-42 has absolutely nothing to redeem it over the 14-45. There is no great weight or size saving, it's just built out of more plastic, with lower quality glass.

    Most definitely just a cost cutter, especially as the 14-45 is still available to buy separately.
     
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  5. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    Northumberland
    Yes.

    When Panasonic released the G1&14-45 kit they were going for really good sharpness and fast focus for their brand new system and potentially making the whole setup for a tiny tiny profit.
    When they were established and folk were buying m4/3rds they could relax and try to make more money by manufacturing the 14-42.

    I surmise ...
     
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  6. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    I think part of it is that they moved some of the production to China and the 14-42 became much cheaper to produce. The 14-45 and 20 1.7 are both in essence "kit" lenses but are still produced in Japan.
     
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  7. phrenic

    phrenic Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 13, 2010
    There is a theory that the 14-45mm was overengineered..wouldnt surprise me. Here is their first lens to go with their first camera of a new system...might as well make it perform as well as possible given the spotlight on it. I'm very happy with mine, which was a nice bonus of getting a cheap g1 when they were getting cleared out.

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  8. elavon

    elavon Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 1, 2012
    Tel Aviv Israel
    Ehud
    I just wonder how the IQ is compared to the P12-35.
     
  9. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    Northumberland
    I wonder the same : at apertures of 3.5 and narrower of course : landscape territory.

    I own the Olympus Zuiko 14-54MkI (full 4/3rds) and bought it simply for the wider apertures at all focal lengths : but my Lumix 14-45 stomps it for sharpness in edges and corners.
     
  10. Gyles

    Gyles Mu-43 Veteran

    265
    Feb 15, 2012
    Sunny Norfolk, UK
    Travelographer and self confessed Hexaholic
    I love this lens, paired with my P20 it makes for a great travel combo. I got mine used with a gf1 and the 20. I could have picked up a new GX1 with 14-42mm PZ for similar money. But I was advised by the good folks on this forum to invest first in good glass. I made the right choice.
     
  11. PENpal

    PENpal Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

    401
    Feb 15, 2011
    I have both an Oly 14-42 and a Pany 14-42. Which do you think is better?
     
  12. htc

    htc Mu-43 Top Veteran

    579
    Jan 11, 2011
    Finland
    Harry
    I'd like to think it's Oly...
     
  13. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

    Jul 18, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    I doubt you could really tell much difference in quality, but the Oly has a big weight and size advantage. It's also quick and quiet.
     
  14. dd1

    dd1 Mu-43 Regular

    61
    Sep 9, 2011
    The Panny 14-45 :tongue:
     
  15. sin77

    sin77 Mu-43 Veteran

    243
    Dec 9, 2011
    Singapore
    How about if I want to use it on my epm2? Should I go for oly 12-50 macro kit, oly 14-42 or pany 14-45? Does pany give me more headache in CA?
     
  16. jyc860923

    jyc860923 Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Feb 28, 2012
    Shenyang, China
    贾一川
    I've never used the panny 14-42 but happened to own an Oly 14-42II for a while. based on my experience with the current 14-45 I have, it has got better contrast and sharpness, and it renders colours more smoothly than the 14 2.5; and from the panny 14-42 samples I observed I think the sharpness can't even compete Oly 14-42II but the contrast and colour are OK. So it must be all about marketing, nothing the 14-42 has wins the 14-45. Curious to know how panny's new 14-42 performs though.
     
  17. dd1

    dd1 Mu-43 Regular

    61
    Sep 9, 2011
    It would depend on your priorities, if you want macro and an extended zoom range (including a wider 24mm at its wide end) buy the 12-50, if its just the cheapness then buy the Oly 14-42, but if it is superior image quality you want, then buy the 14-45.

    IMO, of course.
     
  18. Djarum

    Djarum Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    Huntsville, AL, USA
    Jason
    One of the things I've noticed with the kit zooms is there seems to be a good deal of variance between samples. I've seen examples from really good ones and examples from sub-par ones.
     
  19. biomed

    biomed Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Aug 22, 2013
    Seattle area
    Mike
    Every time I use the G Vario 14-45 I am very pleased with the results. Although considered a "kit" lens the 14-45 produces amazing results. The 14-42 on the other hand according to some of the reviews is a much "softer" lens, especially at the long end. Having compared the two side by side the 14-45 is more robust than the 14-42 (which has a plastic mount). B&H lists the 14-42 for $165.95 and the 14-45 for $289.00. IMO the 14-45 give you more bang for the buck over the 14-42.


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  20. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    Northumberland
    Talking of variation in quality between examples of the same lens : I currently have two Lumix 14-45 and pixel peeping cannot tell them apart.
    That's amazing consistency right there!
     
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