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Why I'm switching to all Panasonic bodies

Discussion in 'Panasonic Cameras' started by tlovegrove, Apr 30, 2014.

  1. tlovegrove

    tlovegrove Mu-43 Regular

    Mar 3, 2014
    Southern California
    I recently spent 3 days in Yosemite with an E-M5 (usually with Leica 25mm) and G6 (usually with Panasonic 12-32). I was expecting the E-M5 to outperform the G6, but I really don't think it did. I also enjoyed using the Panasonic menus (though admittedly super control panel is nice). And I've recently been doing a lot of video work, for which the Panasonics are unquestionably far better.

    So my conclusion? If the Panasonics are equally adept at stills, and far better for video, why do I have an Olympus body? Now obviously the Olympus has some advantages (like the awesome stabilization), and I'm not at all criticizing the E-M5 as a poor camera. It's great. But my conclusion: time to replace the E-M5 with a Panasonic body - I have a GX7 on order.

    Pics from the trip are here if you're interested - EXIF data is there so you can see which camera / lens was used for each.

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  2. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    Whatever works best for you! Probably one the nice perks of having two manufacturers sharing the same lens mount!
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  3. Steven

    Steven Mu-43 All-Pro

    May 25, 2012
    What about the colors and JPEG ? I always wanted to switch the other way because everyone always raves about that.
  4. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    Looking at the Flickr set it looks like the colours of either camera were no worse and no better than each other, which means a switch to one brand would be a sensible thing.
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  5. InlawBiker

    InlawBiker Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

    Feb 1, 2012
    Seattle, WA
    I'm thinking the best thing to do, especially if you like video, is to use a Panasonic body and pick up an Olympus E-P1 or E-PL1 for $75. This way you can have those JPEGs with image stabilization when you want it.
  6. Bif

    Bif Mu-43 Top Veteran

    May 28, 2012
    San Angelo TX
    Bruce Foreman
    I've used both (Oly E-PL1, E-P3, OMD E-M5; Panasonic Lumix GH2s, GH3s, GX1, and GX7). On the GH2s the colors sometimes seemed a bit muted compared to Olys, sometimes not. GH3s images look great. But if one feels the Panasonic JPEGs don't look as good the fix is ridiculously simple.

    A very few seconds with the LEVELS command in either PhotoShop (incl Elements) or the free program for PC called Fast Stone Image Viewer (www.faststone.org). Just move the leftmost slider in a "tad" and that gives the image more "punch".

    Looks like I'm gonna "run with the herd" and sell one of my GH3s to partially fund a new GH4,
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  7. tlovegrove

    tlovegrove Mu-43 Regular

    Mar 3, 2014
    Southern California
    I shot all RAW, and so really any color difference between the two sensors was a non-issue. As Bruce mentioned, those things are so easily fixed in PP that it's not at all a determining factor for me.

    Inlawbiker you've got a good suggestion there. It's nice to be at the point where some of the earlier MFT bodies are dirt cheap now.
  8. leitztozeiss

    leitztozeiss New to Mu-43

    Sep 11, 2011
    Scottsdale, Arizona
    I did the same thing, went from EM5 to a GX7 + GH3! Very pleased with my growing Pan system.
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  9. beanedsprout

    beanedsprout Mu-43 Veteran

    Apr 13, 2013
    north central Ohio
    Hey whatever works. I "grew up" on Panasonic and switched to Olympus. But I still miss my GF1, you just can't beat the rendering of it.
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  10. Jacquesass

    Jacquesass Mu-43 Regular

    Feb 17, 2014
    I didn't bother checking to see which pics came from which camera - but you took some great pics, especially the last (the panoramic). Yosemite is an awesome place.
  11. GFFPhoto

    GFFPhoto Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 24, 2013
    Ahhh, the wisdom of the internet. They are closer now, but in the past the Olympus did have more vibrance in certain tones. But head to head the differences were not as extreme or tilted towards Olympus as internet wisdom would indicate, and as far as I could tell, WB settings had a bigger impact on how they looked than the JPEG engine (I was unable to find a head to head to had the same WB settings). Yes they are different enough that if someone says they prefer Olympus JPEGs it can have a basis, but the difference is pretty small, and Panasonic JPEGs are not "bad" like internet groupthink seems to indicate.

    Here is one casual head to head from DPR. Here the Olympus looks better in some, the Panasonic in others, but WB seems to be the big difference:


    And here is Steve Huff (who can be a bit of an Oly fan boy, so take the text with a grain of salt). Again, the WB makes the biggest difference and he also points out the greater in camera sharpening of Olympus (which can be adjusted in camera, but sometimes lower in camera sharpening can be preferable. You can sharpen in Post easier than un-sharpen):

  12. markdaunt

    markdaunt Mu-43 Regular

    Nov 18, 2012
    Done exactly the same thing, Olympus and Nikon now gone and got GH3 (being replaced by GH4) GM1 for walk around and Blackmagic Pocket.
  13. usayit

    usayit Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Whatever fits your needs! Can't go wrong with Olympus or Panasonic (or even one of each).
  14. pcnyc

    pcnyc Mu-43 Regular

    Sep 15, 2010
    I switched to GX7. IBIS was the thing that held me back even though I've always liked Panasonic's video, now I can have both! as for the color and WB, I've read somewhere that GX7 improved on both areas compared to earlier models, which seems to be the case in my own experience, earlier models has this red feel to it, and AWB always make it a bit too warm IMO. but GX7 files looks right, and I prefer the AWB over Olympus's AWB+keep warm color OFF, which sometimes goes overboard and makes image a bit too cool and lifeless.
  15. GFFPhoto

    GFFPhoto Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 24, 2013
    I have the GX7 (as well as the GX1), and the GX7 definitely has more vibrant colors, although auto WB can still be hit and miss (but I have been using VSCO presets lately, which really magnify even the slightest WB errors).
  16. chipbutty

    chipbutty Mu-43 Top Veteran

    I've just made the switch from Panasonic to Olympus and sold my G6 for the EM5! The G6 is excellent but I had far too many niggles with it. The GF1 is the only Panasonic camera I've enjoyed. I just don't get along with Panasonic bodies. It's great that we have two options in this camp. There's something for everyone :smile:
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  17. I currently have a Panasonic sensor, a Samsung sensor, a Canon sensor, and two Sony sensors (not to be confused with two Sony cameras), which means that I have all my bases covered.
  18. mattia

    mattia Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 3, 2012
    The Netherlands
    I don't rule out owning one of each eventually (GH4 and E-M1), but the two main selling points for the E-M1 right now are the IBIS and the ability to focus 43 glass decently. And even once the better telephoto options arrive (the oly Pro lenses), if I get them, I'd really rather shoot them on a stabilised body. That's the big split for me - video is the decider for Panasonic, IBIS for Olympus. And my lens bag is mixed, so why not mix up the cameras?

    Besides, once I have my Oly set up I don't need to menu dive, and I freely admit the E-M1 is a much better camera in terms of haptics than the E-M5 ever was...
  19. marcl

    marcl Mu-43 Regular

    Jul 8, 2012
    I have an E-M5 and a GM1. (I love them both.) I shoot RAW + JPEG. What I notice is the noise reduction is better controlled with the Olympus than the Panasonic at higher ISOs on the JPEGs. Using RAWs, the results are fairly similar. So the JPEG engine of the Olympus has a bit of an advantage there I think.

    As for colors, I can't say I find Olympus JPEG to have much of an advantage. Maybe, maybe, do I like them a tad better. But I really like the Panasonic's too. I have made adjustments to both profiles to my taste.
  20. val

    val Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Dec 19, 2013
    I think Oly has a nicer JPEG engine (for those quick shares)

    I'd greatly appreciate Panasonic to really focus on their JPEG engine and to release a firmware with the updated algorithms.
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