why I feel the E-M1 equals FF these days :)

OK sorry I do not write well some of you know that to others sorry just cant write

again I come at this from a wedding and people photographer that shoots events and portraits
I dont shoot sports not really a nature guy either but I do some when we go camping or to places ? and I don't plan on dumping FF and love the 36MP cameras and want a sony A7r and want a Fuji X pro 2 when it comes out I love cameras and don't feel any camera is BETTER than others as a whole but each one has its cool thing
DXO scores are strange beasts if we go by those look the E-M1 to the FF like 5DMKIII or the D600 only spot it lacks is ISO performance ? don't shoot past what we ever could with film no worries in the day I never come up against it I know many pros who won't shoot past 1600 that are good who don't want to push the ugly high iso cause high iso is never as good or clean

SO
its like having a Mini Cooper convertible a Ferrari and a SUV in your garage all have uses all are unique

why do I think its equal
is it better NO
is it worse NO !
both have pros cons that is the huge point !!!! and why equal

we do have more noise in the E-M1and not quite as smooth of looking file at times but what we do get is a great size file to handle 16MP and the noise is fine even pushed to what I feel its max is at 4000 even though it starts to loose a bit so this is where FF pulls ahead once we hit that 2000 ISO range but at 1600 ? its all equal
yes there is more noise and I never had a client say OH NO there is a touch more noise in this image than the other one I can see at %100 on the screen NEVER !! and if noise is getting in the way of a image the image is not strong enough and should not be a keeper !!!!
now that sharper look ? I don't know what it is but BW out of the E-M1 are awesome and I think that sharper look of the smaller sensor at times makes BW nicer and the noise structure is nicer so its my preferred BW these days
now I can smooth out the M4/3 files so even peaking its pretty much impossible to figure out which is which

if you took a well done M4/3 print and put it in one room then a FF in another I would say it might take a back and forth to say OH that is the M4/3 if both are don't perfect (our goal is perfection)


the Nikons recover shadows way better than any cameras for sure and mainly the D600 or D800
since I have also a post production company I see a lot of cameras a lot of files
the D800 is detail king (in 35mm format size or FF as its called) the D600 IMHO has a bit better noise handling but the D800 can do great purely on the MP size so in print I think they both end up being the same resized to a certain size they end up being about the same ? but if one printed large or really wanted crop room no doubt the D800 is king

now the 1DX and the D4 are animals when it comes to high iso they are truly amazing clean

the MKIII is a great camera with a OK sensor IMHO again not bashing it just not as wow in recovery either way but canon has a look to it that some prefer and the body ergonomics are better on canon than nikon I think again I think not saying YES just me hahahah

now the E-M1 I think recovers nicer not meaning blown out saving your bacon but recovering highlights to me the OLY has a bit nicer does not look recovered as much as some do again just me !

of course handling ? yeah the FF can focus better at some things and the OLY can focus better at others
I love the tilt screen and EVF and sometimes prefer optical VF but the tilt screen gives it bonus points

yeah specialty lens on FF I hear that a lot !!! you can do that on a OLY I just say OK mount a Leica M mount proper distance on a canon I can adapt any lens to M4/3 if I want so it becomes a playground argument and is not worth it both again have pros cons or I can be 4 years old and say show me at least e 0.95 lens for your canon or nikon neenner neener neener
I think we know that on this forum lots of lens options we M4/3 users can use

I did not compare to Leica cause I don't shoot Leica and I think Leica is its own thing and not fast focus FF that people like to compare to the M4/3

when I had the 1D back in 2001 or when it came out it was WOW sure it was not quite as good as film but the advantages were huge when the MKII came out I thought WOW this nails it quality is as good as film up to a certain size and the 1DS was a fine detail monster in its day
of course having 2 1D and a 1Ds is $17,000 for bodies alone and today the E-M1 destroys those files big time at less than %10 of its price !!! pretty darn amazing


the things that mad the E-M1 jump for me were
the EVF and its size
the body handling and buttons !!!!
I never had a issue with the E-M5 files I think the E-M1 is a touch nicer for a pro with iso 100 and 8000 gives us a bit more wiggle room to work with on bright days
the grip IMHO is nicer fitting into the hand and I use it vert mode where the E-M5 I did not like the feel in hand

if a sports guy says its not equal cause of focus I might agree or a guy shooting birds etc.. again I shoot people mostly

 

well I clearly stated WHY I FEEL !! in the title ! also clearly stated the E-M1 not M4/3

I did not say it troll like ?
also I give people a idea where I am coming from

and the E-M1 is a new camera and I wanted to put about a dozen working paying jobs under it before I spoke up on it ! and shot those like I normal do along side my FF gear
so this is not something I have repeated yet ?


sure some don't care one bit like yourself so not sure why you even bother reading or posting ?
but I think some others do enjoy reading others opinions its a forum about cameras I love reading threads from people here


as far as someone saying M4/3 fan ? again I love all cameras and shoot all kinds and still shoot FF so let someone say oh M4/3 fanatic ? I would say YUP and FF and all cameras I am a photographer I don't get pigeon holed into one thing ! and my portfolio and work can back up what I say !

I guess if you do not like it don't read it hahahahahah

also really who cares what someone else might think if a FF person does not like M4/3 gear ? they are the one with the issue IMHO

 

Flash I did not change the title ?

I asked the mods to delete the thread since you know I was on DWF since 2002 and POTN since 2002 I was into this digital from the get go !

ahhahaha I am a pretty high end shooter with a great career not sure photographers love to pat themselves on there back so here is my pat on my back

how many here used to be in Architectural Digest or Food & Wine or Conde Nast Travel on a monthly basis and have made a solid 6 figure career shooting I would have thought like yourself another working pro with great stuff contributes
how many have been able to do things like Dive on the USS Arizona and take photos ! which is pretty much NOBODY !! oh and I was with Gene Hackman ? so yeah pat myself on the back I have had a INSANE career with a camera just wanted to share that with others
was the first featured photographer with Capture one back in the early days etc..

not saying we pros are above anyone either but another angle on things want to make that clear I also learn a lot here forgot the guy who got me good info on auto-ISO to him thanks
and we are not better photographers but we are able to repeat what we do on a daily basis under varying conditions etc.. so I do think pros have a good bit to add to things

I tried to make it clear where I come from

 

cause to say I am a troll and dis service ? I have a good career in this industry I am no troll !
and my career if anything should be a service to M4/3 as I clearly use it and did all last year !

I even shot a cell phone for a mobile company ! I cant disclose any of it and I did that on my E-M5 with 60 macro ! and the art director never even questioned my choice of gear !


I also don't know why anyone has a issue with the thread title cause it clearly states why I feel

you saying It's mostly the thread title that comes across in an inflammatory way imo.
and
HappyFish, it's important to understand how much Us vs Them antipathy we've had around here. It's especially bad when a camera really gets attention, like the E-M5 did and the E-M1 is now.


again I don't worry about the us vs them ? I was just giving my thoughts on WHY I felt its great and again did not say M4/3 said E-M1 !
maybe its I am a working pro and never felt the need to defend my gear ?

same thing Gordon and I both know you get the question don't some people ask you why such a small camera at a wedding ? NOPE we are pros we carry ourselves as a pro at work and nobody questions it unless its some troll photographer but even then it has not happened to me

I thought maybe some would like to hear my angle on this great new camera I stated before I wanted to shoot it for work some before I commented

its obvious now some on this forum are afraid of the outside world making fun of them or something ? or fear deep inside they feel there gear is not equal ? and afraid a FF guy might say something ?
again I am not one that thinks OH I better not say my M4/3 gear is nice in fear someone might not agree ?

 

sadly its my first language won't get into it just cant grasp grammar ? but I am insane good at business so it makes up for it but in person I can present things very well actually presented windows 98 for HP at Microsoft for the launch and how it would work together for the better with HP MS
also did some technical training with HP for digital imagine and printing in my past
they knew I could not write but hired me for presenting in person skills and lived with my writing hahahahah thanks for that HP

like I say everyone has somewhere they lack mine is grammar

been a working pro a long time and been dying to get something in my hands the size of my old film cameras again that can deliver also having glass that does not weigh a ton etc.. the E-M5 was close the E-M1 brings it so close now its something I can feel %100 confident in

and again funny cause I shoot with all formats ? and I don't get into the one is better and tried to make that clear