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Who uses iA Intelligent Auto Mode?

Discussion in 'Panasonic Cameras' started by ralf-11, May 23, 2019.

  1. Ross the fiddler

    Ross the fiddler Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    When a fixed shutter speed is more important than aperture or ISO for one example. ;) 
     
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  2. StephenB

    StephenB Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Aug 29, 2018
    Somerset UK
    Steve
    I don't usually get into any discussion regarding technicalities, but at this moment I'm experimenting with using ND filters, so I take a reading in A, because I want to shoot at 2.8, transfer it to manual, because I don't want any correction in camera.

    I don't get the point of P mode, if you want a narrow DoF in brightly lit conditions won't P naturally increase the DoF by closing the aperture down, or vice versa?
     
  3. speedy

    speedy Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Nov 27, 2015
    If you want a fixed shutter speed, then either your aperture, or ISO has to float, or you're going to under/over expose your shot. In which case, the camera is still making the decisions for you. Which the purists seem to be dead against, as that somehow kills the creativity. Personally, I'm not fussed. I'll shoot in whatever auto/semi auto mode I feel like, at that particular time.
     
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  4. Brownie

    Brownie Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Sep 3, 2018
    SE Michigan
    Yeah the camera will choose what it thinks is best, but you can override to choose the aperture you want and let the camera set the shutter speed and ISO (if in auto ISO) for proper exposure, like shooting in A. But then if your next shot is more dependent on a specific shutter speed, you can again adjust by spinning the same wheel to choose your shutter, just like shooting in S. The difference being you didn't have to change the dial on your camera to do it, just spin the wheel to suit your needs and let the camera do the rest. Fast.

    All of this talk has me thinking I'll set up a custom using P and assigning EC to the front dial.
     
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  5. Toddster

    Toddster Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Aug 7, 2013
    Florida
    Todd Cleaver
    Right on! That's exactly what I have for my C1 setting. That gives me exposure control on the front dial and creative control on the rear dial. Easy peasy two dial control of everything.

    I did say when I admitted to using P mode that any mention of it causes a stir and this thread has certainly not been an exception. I'll admit that there are plenty of situations that I would not use P. Sports and anything requiring a fast shutter speed being the biggest one. The thing that I will stay on my soapbox about though is that I do not give up ANY creative control by using P. I can adjust both aperture and shutter speed with one dial. So if I control aperture and shutter speed with one dial and exposure with the other dial what creative element am I giving up?

    I probably doesn't help that we are discussing Program mode in a thread that started out discussing iA. These are entirely different beasts. iA allows no creative control and with iA+ it is limited and difficult. Program mode however allows FULL control of your settings. I frequently "shift" the P mode to get what I want. The great thing is we can all shoot the mode we want and be quite happy. But if you think of Program mode as an Auto mode that takes away creative control you simply have not tried it on modern cameras.
     
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  6. Carl Lilley

    Carl Lilley New to Mu-43

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    May 6, 2019
    Dartford, Kent
    Carl
    When I don't want to think about the technical aspects just get the shot, I do

    Regards
    Carl.
     
  7. ralf-11

    ralf-11 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 16, 2017
    Right - I started this thread because "iA allows no creative control" - I only use it in two situations:
    1. when I want to let the camera deal with night - "Nightshot stacking"
    1nd 2. when the G9's knob get accidentally bumped to iA and I don't realize it

    The latter happened to me on a recent hike (tho the jpg's came out fine and looked like they had gotten some extra dramatic processing)

    For the record, my default carry mode is "P" and I switch to A most frequently.

    re "iA+" gives limited and difficult camera control - Can you expand on this (for .RAW)?
    IIRC, the manual lists 4 things you can vary with iA+ (it's in a table somewhere)
     
  8. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Feb 23, 2015
    Brisbane, Australia
    Damiano Visocnik
    There has not been much mention of the dreaded M mode. :crying:
    Some say it's the only mode a "true" photographer should use but I smell elitist in that statement. :rolleyes: 

    Any mode if fine as long as I can achieve the result I desire, as long as I have a CLEAR idea of what I want. If however I am happy just clicking away and hoping for the best then I would call myself clueless. :hmmm:

    Back to M mode: in some cases the only mode to get that image. Really!
    Yesterday I found myself photographing a fast paced event (not my favorite style of photography).
    The light was constant (veiled sun) but the subject was moving very fast on a background that was going from bright to very dark. The background was greatly influencing the exposure (fooling the meter) with too dark or too bright results.
    And then I suddenly remembered M mode: set the aperture (I wanted rather slow shutter speed to get a motion blurred background from panning) and corresponding shutter speed for the desired exposure.
    Now my subject could pass in front of any shade of background and still remain perfectly exposed.
    Would I be able to adjust/compensate for such exposure in P, A or S mode, with a dial?
    No chance: not with my reaction time to a motorcycle speeding in front of me at considerable pace....

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    Dust Hustle 8_2 by gnarlydog, on Flickr
     
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  9. AussiePhil

    AussiePhil Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jun 1, 2014
    Canberra, ACT, Aust
    Phil
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  10. AussiePhil

    AussiePhil Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jun 1, 2014
    Canberra, ACT, Aust
    Phil
    There's no iAuto mode on the EM1X .... :)  .... but P mode still exists :) 
     
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  11. snaimpally

    snaimpally Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Dec 31, 2012
    I use the menu settings to set the camera to "silent mode" to prevent the AF light from coming on.
     
  12. snaimpally

    snaimpally Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Dec 31, 2012
    I do a lot of concert photography and am focused on capturing the fleeting moments. There is no posing and no "do-overs" so I don't want to fuss with the shutter/aperture settings. I have had no issues with the "look" I achieve using IA+. I shoot raw+jpeg so I have the raw images that I can process if I want a particular "look".

    The creative process is different for everyone and for the type of photography (e.g., portraits, weddings, concerts, etc.) they engage in. What works for one person may not work for another and may vary based on the type of photography.
     
  13. Ross the fiddler

    Ross the fiddler Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Yep, we were 'out of shorts' for the E-M1 II with no Scene Modes & so it's 'long trousers' for the E-M1X. ;)  :D 
     
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  14. snaimpally

    snaimpally Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Dec 31, 2012
    Just wanted to mention that the link I posted on using P mode
    Photography Using Program Mode | Natural Exposures, Inc.
    is Daniel's website. He also some great equipment reviews - I read his reviews extensively before I decided to buy the G9 and the 50-200mm f2.8-4. His website is an excellent resource.
     
  15. D7k1

    D7k1 Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Nov 18, 2013
    iA+ or auto when I am traveling on day of travel. I am often tired and rely on the camera when I am too tired to think. Often use the various modes for different situations if I have time. However for BIF I use a custom setting with all manual and almost everything that can be turned off, turned off. I agree with Daniel, why buy a tool if you are not going to use all the benefits it has, especially in the case of a camera, or in another hobby a Stage Keyboard - heck who uses all of the tools on a multipurpose tools but I never hear complaints about "too many" options on them:) .
     
  16. Brownie

    Brownie Mu-43 Top Veteran

    912
    Sep 3, 2018
    SE Michigan
    I need to finish shooting a test roll of film on my newly overhauled Minolta SRT-101, and I don't care what any of you say, I'm using manual!
     
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  17. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Feb 23, 2015
    Brisbane, Australia
    Damiano Visocnik
    not really sure but I think it's a Kawasaki W800 as base.
    It was at Dust Hustle by Ellaspede: they call it "Inappropriate Dirt Days" where very bizarre motorcycles tear it up on dirt courses.
    Here are some outstanding images of crazy motos and riders by a talented photographer: Motorcycle Pics.
     
  18. Saledolce

    Saledolce Mu-43 Top Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Apr 17, 2017
    Italy
    I tend to shoot a lot in Aperture priority, and changing aperture with the rear wheel of gx800 is slow. So I experimented with Auto, and was not entirely disappointed with the results.
     
  19. mcgillro

    mcgillro Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

    226
    Feb 10, 2019
    Hastings, NZ
    As a previous poster mentioned, I use the auto setting if giving the camera to someone else to use. Otherwise it depends what I am shooting, and what effects I want. Whether that be depth of field, fast shutter, bulb mode, or anything else.
     
  20. StephenB

    StephenB Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Aug 29, 2018
    Somerset UK
    Steve
    I used the panorama scene/auto setting for the first time the other day, it worked a treat.
     
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