Which pancake for my Ep-1?

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by tobeeornot, Feb 20, 2010.

  1. tobeeornot

    tobeeornot Mu-43 Rookie

    20
    Feb 17, 2010
    Hey all,

    I am thinking about getting a pancake for my EP-1.

    I see on some forums that the LUMIX 20mm f1.7 PANCAKE LENS is a good option and slightly quicker with AF than the Olympus M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 17mm 1:2.8 Pancake Lens.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. Iansky

    Iansky Mu-43 All-Pro Charter Member

    Dec 26, 2009
    The Cotswolds, UK
    I have the Pany 20mm and it is an incredible lens and super fast at f1.7.

    I am now eagerly waiting to see when and how much the soon to be released 14mm f2.8 from Panasonic will be.

    You can see a selection of images taken with the 20mm at my blogsite below.
     
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  3. thearne3

    thearne3 Mu-43 Top Veteran Charter Member

    807
    Jan 28, 2010
    Redding, CT USA
    I did a lot or research before getting the Oly 17mm, based primarily on price (roughly half the cost of the Pany). I like the wider FOV and haven't regretted the higher f-stop. Nor have I had any problems with CA distortion - so far. That said, if price is no object and FOV isn't an issue for you, then the Pany is universally considered the sharper and 'cleaner' lens - especially on a Pany body, which corrects for CA.

    You probably can't go wrong with either.
     
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  4. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus Subscribing Member Charter Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    Phila, Pa USA
    I have the 17 and the 20. There is a marked difference between the FOV, (Field Of View) between the 2 lenses.
    I like both. The 20 is faster especially in low light. The 17 is very nice all around and especially on the street.
    The 20 is somewhat sharper. The 17 has beautiful contrast and color.
    I don't really see that much difference in AF between the 2. I kinda think that those that do...have wishful thinking...

    So, really it becomes how YOU SEE. The fov should be the decision factor.
    By the way, I use the Pen 1 and also the Pen2.
     
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  5. Brian Mosley

    Brian Mosley Administrator Emeritus Charter Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    :thiagree:

    If I could only have one, it would be the 20mm f1.7 for the dof flexibility and IQ... but I prefer the fov of the 17mm f2.8

    Cheers

    Brian
     
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  6. tobeeornot

    tobeeornot Mu-43 Rookie

    20
    Feb 17, 2010
    Thanks a lot guys. Your feedback is most appreciated!! Plenty of food for thought there!
     
  7. BBW

    BBW Super Moderator Emeritus Charter Member

    If there's a way you can go to a camera store and actually look through the camera using both lenses, it would be the decision maker I'm sure.
     
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  8. SimplyEd

    SimplyEd Mu-43 Regular

    73
    Feb 10, 2010
    Philippines
    Same dilemma here... I only have limited funds... If I will get the oly 17mm I will use it mainly for my PAD and will get adapters for my canon fd lenses and I will also be able to get some strobes or cheap lights for videos. On the otherhand, the panny alone.
     
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  9. Iansky

    Iansky Mu-43 All-Pro Charter Member

    Dec 26, 2009
    The Cotswolds, UK
    Hey Toobeornot good luck with the decision the the lens - whichever you choose I am sure you will not be dissapointed as both are very good from top notch manufacturers.

    Incidentally,

    Has anyone heard / read any further about the intended Panasonic 14mm f2.8??
     
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  10. BBW

    BBW Super Moderator Emeritus Charter Member

  11. blackSP

    blackSP Mu-43 Regular

    54
    Apr 9, 2010
    Amsterdam
    The Pany is one of the best lenses I ever had. It's on the EP2 continuously!
     
  12. mauve

    mauve Mu-43 Top Veteran

    892
    Mar 9, 2010
    Paris, France
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  13. andyw

    andyw Mu-43 Veteran Charter Member

    410
    Jan 27, 2010
    Surrey. UK
    LUMIX 20mm f1.7 all day long! In fact it's going to be my next purchase!
     
  14. scantron

    scantron Mu-43 Regular

    77
    May 10, 2010
    I have a Panasonic 20mm on the way after much deliberation. The 1.7 aperture is what did it for me, plus the rave reviews about image quality.
    The 17mm fov would be great (and the price!), but I'm used to much faster lenses from my DSLR experience.
     
  15. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus Subscribing Member Charter Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    Phila, Pa USA
    You my friend are in for a shock.
    The 20 is not what it's cracked up to be!
    It's more! You will find as others, it's hard to take off the camera.
    Enjoy, you made a great buy....
     
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  16. scantron

    scantron Mu-43 Regular

    77
    May 10, 2010
    That's great to hear because this morning I was sweating a bit about spending that much!
    I did get a good deal on the 'Bay for a barely used one, but it was still a decent amount more than the 17mm.

    C'mon UPS!
     
  17. mauve

    mauve Mu-43 Top Veteran

    892
    Mar 9, 2010
    Paris, France
    Sometimes I wish I could live in the USA. I bought the 20 mm for a bargain price of 329 € new (that's with 19.6% VAT included), but I can't find any good deal on a 17 mm from a reputable source in France. My brick & mortar shop quoted it at 299 €, and after reviewing some web merchants, many were *higher* and just one under at 289 €, but with +5 € for delivery which isn't interesting for me.

    After perusing US shops, I saw prices as low as 230 $, which is a lot less, but if I order, shipping costs + french VAT will offset the benefit.

    I'm frustrated.
     
  18. Djarum

    Djarum Super Moderator Moderator Subscribing Member Charter Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    Huntsville, AL, USA
    Real Name:
    Jason
    What about blueberry?










    Oh, we are talking about a different kind of pancakes ;)
     
  19. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus Subscribing Member Charter Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    Phila, Pa USA
    Mauve,
    Would you still pay VAT if the lens was sent as a gift from me your cousin in the US?
     
  20. mauve

    mauve Mu-43 Top Veteran

    892
    Mar 9, 2010
    Paris, France
    That would be a flicking-the-coin game. Border guards are not as stupid as they look, and even if they don't control everything, there's always a chance they do.

    Anyway, I'm now more and more considering saving for the Pany 14mm because I've always preferred 28mm focals in 24x36, so I'll wait a bit more.

    But thanks for the idea.