Which lens to leave behind

Discussion in 'Panasonic Cameras' started by oxhouser, Jan 10, 2015.

  1. oxhouser

    oxhouser Mu-43 Regular

    Nov 26, 2012
    I will soon take vacation in Vietnam and Cambodia, one of the stop overs are the temples of Angkor Wat, something I have wanted to see and photograph for years
    I really don't want to take a camera bag as some of the areas we will visit are probably not ideal to walk around advertising expensive camera gear
    I own the following GX7 body, pany 7-14 f4, pany 14mm f2.5, pany 12-32mm, Oly 45 f1.8 and a Sigma 60mm art lens.
    Ideally I would like to take a minimum of lenses but can't work out which to leave behind
    I'm pretty sure the 7-14 will be very usefull In and around the temples, the pany 14 is medium speed and the Oly 45 a good fast lens both for low light, the 12-35 is a good lens to keep on the camera for general tourist photos and a short tele such as the sigma will find a use for sure, so do I just pack everything? If so what bag, ideally it would be a proper backpack with an insert or I could pack each lens in its own neoprene case and buy something like the crumpler banana skin to wrap around the camera, not the fastest way to access and change lenses but it all fits in a standard backpack
    What would you do in my shoes?
  2. Theo

    Theo Mu-43 Veteran

    Aug 26, 2013
    Theo K.
    I would take the 12-35 for walk around, the 7-14 for wide landscape, and the 60 for telephoto. The 14 and 12-32 are redundant when you already have the 12-35. The 45 is too long for street and the 60 seems more useful for isolation scene.
  3. Klorenzo

    Klorenzo Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 10, 2014
    Hi, I was there 6 months ago. I used almost exclusively the 12-40, a couple of experiments with the 9mm BCL and a few shots with the P20. Never took the 40-150 out of the bag.
    I'd take the 7-14 for the temples and the 12-32 for everything else. The 60 or the 45 are the fastest lenses and the only ones with a little reach. They are so small that I would take both and pick up just one and leave the other in the hotel room depending on the actual need and how the trip evolve.

    The 14 overlaps with two other lenses, especially with the 7-14. It's a little faster, but you usually visit stuff during the day...

    I used the Olympus EM-5 wrapping case for the camera (EM-10) and two neoprene pouches for the other lenses and thrown everything inside a backpack: no item was harmed during the travel.

    Beng Mealea is worth the time to go to.
  4. hazwing

    hazwing Mu-43 All-Pro

    Nov 25, 2012
    can you clarify whether you have the panasonic 12-35 f2.8 or panasonice 12-32 (pancake)? Both lenses are quite different.
  5. oxhouser

    oxhouser Mu-43 Regular

    Nov 26, 2012
    Sorry my post is confusing, I have the Lumix 12-32 f3.5-5.6

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  6. JNB

    JNB Mu-43 Veteran

    Dec 11, 2014
    Nova Scotia, Canada
    Bear in mind that an expensive looking backpack can be a target regardless of what might be inside.

    One possibility is a small, lightweight bag that can be used on its own, or packed in the top of a regular backpack. With an additional partition, I've packed my camera/lens and 3 additional lenses into a Think Tank Hubba-Hubba Hiney, and everything is still easily accessible (5 lenses, one mounted, would be possible). The bag can be used on a belt, it comes with a shoulder strap, and it is small enough that it could be simply stuffed into a regular backpack (depending on the size) as an insert. On a belt (e.g. TT Thin-Skin) the bag is small enough that it can ride in front (for better security) without being overly awkward. If you do use the belt idea, TT also have a water-bottle holder. Note that the HH-Hiney is NOT a bag with heavy-weight padding.
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  7. silver92b

    silver92b Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 7, 2013
    Atlanta, GA
    My advise would be to take the zooms as they are quite versatile. Too bad they are not particularly fast... Keep in mind the crop factor. The fast lenses you have are most suitable for portraits. A 25mm is about the longest you want to carry around for general photo taking..
  8. budeny

    budeny Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 4, 2014
    Boulder, CO
    I would drop pany 7-14 f4, pany 14mm f2.5 and acquire 7.5mm fisheye (Samyang/Rockinon/Bower) and one of fast primes: PanaLeica 15mm/f1.7 or 25mm/f1.4 or Oly 17mm
  9. Nam-in-Sonoma

    Nam-in-Sonoma Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Aug 23, 2012
    Penngrove, CA
    The 7-14mm is a must to have, especially at Angkor Wat...I went there in 2011 at the time I had only my 4/3rd My E-3, 7-14, 12-60 and 50-200. I don't know about Vietnam, but in Cambodia, there was nothing to worry about, just common sense precaution.

    Angkor by Nam Ing, on Flickr

    Angkor by Nam Ing, on Flickr

    At 60mm
    Angkor by Nam Ing, on Flickr

    My other pictures here

    I am one of those that never leave any of my lens behind...if you really have to I would say 14 F2.5 since it's redundant on 2 of your lens already.
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  10. DigitalD

    DigitalD Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jan 10, 2014
    My vote would be the 7-14mm 12-32mm and the 45mm. The 45 is so small, why not pack it when you need a little reach. The 60 seems too specialty and my guess will sit in your bag.

    On a completely side note if I was you I would pick up the 20mm 1.7 or the 25mm 1.4 Pana-Leica or even the Oly 25 1.8. You're missing a fast prime in the middle there and these lenses are must-haves in any MFT kit IMO (either one, not all)

    P.S. i have a 20mm for sale if your interested hehe :D
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  11. arson519

    arson519 Mu-43 Regular

    Feb 10, 2013
    I was in laos last month and I think you definitely need the 12-35 , 7-14 and you need a fast wide angle lens the 45 is too long

    I brought 14-140, 12mm, 25mm and 45mm and did not use 45 at all. You are probably going to shoot a lot of scenery
  12. Steven

    Steven Mu-43 All-Pro

    May 25, 2012
    Leave the 45mm and 60mm , unless you are going with a special someone that you want to take portraits of. Then, maybe, take one of them.
    I would say you are missing a good fast low-light prime from your kit. I mean, 14mm is nice, but is neither super bright or super sharp. I would consider getting 20mm or 25mm and bringing it along with 14mm (for wide angle and low light wide angle). Unless you plan to do lots of tripod work. Then, maybe not.
    Crumpler makes nice inserts that you can you put camera and lenses into , and the inserts themselves can go into any old bag. I use medium or small size in a Timbuk2 messenger bag.
  13. Theo

    Theo Mu-43 Veteran

    Aug 26, 2013
    Theo K.
    I would add that if you won't add a fast prime for your trip, you must bring the 14. It's the brightest lens you got for lower light use. In my opinion, the 14 has the sharpest center of all the lenses in your lot, and at least as sharp as the 45. You may think I'm crazy but my copy of the 14 does exhibit that trait. I'm not talking about chart shooting and technical numbers, but perceived sharpness in daily use.
  14. hazwing

    hazwing Mu-43 All-Pro

    Nov 25, 2012
    I'll echo some of what has already been said;

    7-14mm, 12-32, 45mm. The 14mm is so small, it probably doesn't hurt to take it as a 'fastish prime'. It should give you another stop of light over your 12-32. If you pick up a fast "normal" prime e.g. o17mm 1.8, p20mm 1.7, p25mm 1.4, o 25mm 1.8... I wouldn't bother with the 14mm.

    I wouldn't bank on the 45mm as your "low light" lens. The focal length is too long to be used an an all-rounded. Also because it is a telephoto lens you'll need faster shutter speeds to avoid camera shake... some what mitigating what you gain from the faster aperture.

    Also do you anticipate you'll shoot much in the telephoto range? If so, you might want to consider one of the cheap 40-150 or 45-150 zooms.
  15. oxhouser

    oxhouser Mu-43 Regular

    Nov 26, 2012
    Damn this is getting expensive:)

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  16. PacNWMike

    PacNWMike Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Dec 5, 2014
    Salish Sea
    Take the 7-14 and buy a 14-150. Leave the rest at home.
  17. mgs

    mgs Mu-43 Rookie

    Nov 30, 2013
    Bay Area, CA
    When I was there, I think I used just the 20/1.7 exclusively.
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  18. hazwing

    hazwing Mu-43 All-Pro

    Nov 25, 2012
    It doesn't have to get expensive... you can stick to what you have. The only compromise I see with your gear is whether to 14mm 2.5 will be fast enough in low light. I might be enough if you, if you don't shoot in particularly dim environments
  19. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    If you stick with what you have, then I'd take the 14/2.5 for low light situations and the 12-32 for general shooting in good light.

    If you want to purchase and stick with native m43 mount lenses, I'd look at the Oly 12/2 of the 17/1.8 for speed or just get the 12-40/2.8 and weld that sucker onto the camera.

    For low light situations, I might also consider getting older legacy primes and adapt them. You'll have a lot of options to shoot with fast glass nad might even find some good gems cheap.
  20. Nam-in-Sonoma

    Nam-in-Sonoma Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Aug 23, 2012
    Penngrove, CA
    Reading all the comments, I don't know if people talk base on their experiences or an ideal set of lens they would love to have :)
    Stick to what you have.
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