Which lens next? Olympus 17mm 1.8 or Panasonic 25mm 1.4

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by birdie, Feb 5, 2014.

  1. birdie

    birdie Mu-43 Regular

    I'm unsure which lens to get next...

    I currently have the Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 and the Olympus 45mm f/1.8 (and also the Olympus 12-50mm f/3.5-6.3)

    I'm planning on selling the 12-50mm as I prefer the primes, for sharpness, compactness, and fast aperture... and I don't need the weather proofing, or macro ability of the 12-50mm...

    I want something between the 14mm and the 45mm... I'm tossing up between the Olympus 17mm f/1.8 (34mm Equiv) and the Panasonic 25mm f/1.4 (50mm Equiv)

    I was originally thinking the 25mm for sure, but lately I've been wondering if the 17mm would be a better option like the X100s with its 23mm/35mm Equiv...

    I have looked at a focal length report from Lightroom for my 5D2 and for those two lengths I have used the 50mm far far more... but if I look at the focal length report for my OMD for our Bali holiday (I only bought the OMD not long before our Bali holiday, so was first time to use it properly) I used the 14mm 74% of the time and the 45mm only 26% of the time... There were a few times where the 14mm was too wide, and the 45mm was too long, but I'm not sure which one would have been more suitable...

    As the OMD is more my travel, street, casual photography camera, I'm thinking the 17mm might be a better option... but I don't know...

    Suggestions? recommendations???
  2. tjdean01

    tjdean01 Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Feb 20, 2013
    If you have the 14/2.5 I would definitely not get the 17/1.8. I know the 17 is a bit faster, can blur background more, and is probably a little bit better of a lens, but I think it's too close to the 14 in FL to make you use it. So, 17 vs 25, I'd take 25 all day long. Plus it's f1.4 and you can play with blurring backgrounds.

    You could sell the 14 and get the 15/1.7 when that comes out. That would further make the 17/1.8 not worth considering. Remember, the 20/1.7 and 25/1.8 are excellent choices as well. Look at price too (you can sell used lenses at close to full value): 14 - $170, 15/1.7 - $500 (?), 17/1.8 - $400, Sigma 19/2.8 - $150, 20/1.7 - $350, 25/1.4 - $500, 25/1.8 - $300 (?).

    You said you like fast apertures, so if I were you I'd go for the 25/1.4. See how you like it. Don't scratch it and you can always resell it. Or, if you want to keep it but want something between that and the 14, then the 19 is a cheap choice, or the 20.
  3. Jewood1234

    Jewood1234 Mu-43 Regular

    Dec 8, 2011
    Am hearing good things about the Oly 25/1.8 as well. Not sure when it ships, but the early reviews are promising.
  4. birdie

    birdie Mu-43 Regular

    What would be the advantage of the Oly 25/1.8 over the Pan 25/1.4? Cost? Size? IQ?
  5. charcoalblack

    charcoalblack Mu-43 Regular

    Dec 26, 2012
    cheaper and smaller but I wouldn't say the IQ would be the same.
  6. biomed

    biomed Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Aug 22, 2013
    Seattle area
    The 25/1.4 is probably my most used lens. It is hands down the best u4/3 lens that I own. If I were limited to a single lens it would be the 25/1.4.
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  7. ean10775

    ean10775 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 31, 2011
    Cleveland, Ohio
    From what I understand: cost, size and AF speed.

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  8. ramseeker

    ramseeker Mu-43 Rookie

    Dec 18, 2013
    Grand Island, NY
    I'd go with the 25 first - a 14/25/45 is a great holy trinity. My only beef about the PL25 is it's a bit big compared to the oly lenses.
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  9. Chris5107

    Chris5107 Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Jan 28, 2011
    I would go with the 25mm PL or wait a little and get the cheaper and smaller OLY 25/1.8 (assuming the reviews are good).
  10. WasOM3user

    WasOM3user Mu-43 Veteran

    Oct 20, 2012
    Lancashire, UK
    I am in the exact same position as the OP with 12-50, 14 and 45 (but access to my wife's 45-175 as well).

    I think the 25mm focal length is the logical "mid point" between 14 and 45 so this what I will purchase next but just waiting for a few more comparisons between the Oly and PL. However as the 12-50 cost me very little I will keep it for the 12mm POV and the close focus ability.

    The 17mm would perhaps be a better fit in a 12, 17, 45 (or 30) trinity.

    Which suits your depends on your own view:- for me definitely 14/25/45 but for my wife it would be 12/17/30
  11. Art

    Art Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 13, 2011
    San Francisco, CA
    PL25, it's a no brainer.
  12. fin azvandi

    fin azvandi Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 12, 2011
    South Bend, IN
    Since you've got the EM-5, and you consider the m4/3 kit your walkaround/casual gear, can I suggest that you consider selling the 14/2.5 and keeping the 12-50 so you have a weather-sealed, walk-around zoom? I currently have the 14/25/45 trinity and am leaning towards selling the 14 because I don't really care about the size factor and would prefer a zoom of some sort for travel/sightseeing. Just something that's been on my mind lately...

    As for your question, I love the PL 25/1.4 and have no experience with the 17/1.8. So my suggestion is get the 25! :D
  13. birdie

    birdie Mu-43 Regular

    I really like my 14/2.5 as its nice and compact, and with it mounted the camera looks like a point and shoot to the general public, which equals less intimidating... the 12-50 is also quite a large lens (for M43) and its slow... As I said I don't care for the weather sealing, I don't like standing in the rain...

    I did not once use the zoom on my Bali Holiday, I was happy enough swapping between the 14mm and 45mm as needed. I had a Lowepro Event Messenger 100 with my gear in, so nice and compact and light...

    It sounds like the 25/1.4 would be the way to go for now... and maybe add the 17/1.8 down the track if need be...
  14. DynaSport

    DynaSport Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 5, 2013
    I have a similar set up, owning the 14 and 45 and a 14-42 zoom that hasn't seen use in a good while. I lived with the 14 and 45 exclusively for a while and like them both very much. But, like you, I wanted something in between. I went with the PL25 and is has been almost glued to my camera ever since. I still love the 14 and 45, but the 25 is just so versatile and I love the fast aperture for low light. In your boat, I would be tempted to wait and see how good the new Oly 25 is because I don't like spending money, but I don't regret getting the PL25 at all. I love the 1.4 and I don't mind the size.
  15. fin azvandi

    fin azvandi Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 12, 2011
    South Bend, IN
    All right then, if you're keeping the 14/2.5 then 17mm seems too close in terms of focal length - based on your experience (with the Canon and the m4/3 gear) I'd say wait a little bit longer to see some reviews of the Oly 25, and then add either it or the PL 25.
  16. GeBathan

    GeBathan Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Dec 11, 2012
    Los Angeles CA
    Similar situation with the OP, I already have both Sigma's 19 & 30,now I'm considering getting the 25,should I sell both and just have the 25 by itself? Thanks.

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  17. Yohan Pamudji

    Yohan Pamudji Mu-43 Veteran

    Jun 21, 2012
    Mississippi, USA
    If you plan on keeping the 14mm, I'd go with the 25mm next since the 17mm would be too close in field of view. Yes 14mm and 17mm are sufficiently different that they can be used differently, but I think you'd get more use out of a 25mm considering your shooting history (lots of 50mm on FF) and current lens lineup. I say this as somebody who loves the 35mm FF-equivalent field of view, would choose the 17mm f/1.8 if ever forced to choose a single lens for m4/3, and hardly ever shoots at 50mm equivalent.
  18. alex66

    alex66 Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jul 23, 2010
    The 25mm either one will fit well in-between the 14 and 45, I have the 14 and 45 with a sigma 30 and the three go together really well. The trio of wide normal short tel is a classic set up and one many photographers have used for ever and a day.
  19. Pecos

    Pecos Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jan 20, 2013
    The Natural State
    Ditto on getting a 25 for a nice 14/25/45 three lens setup.
    I had the PL25, and although it's a great lens, the size annoyed me - especially with the hood. I'd look at the Oly 25 if I were you.
  20. birdie

    birdie Mu-43 Regular

    Looking at the specs on B&H the Oly 25 is a bit smaller and lighter... and cheaper...

    Panasonic 25mm f/1.4
    Dimensions (DxL): Approx. 2.48 x 2.15" (63 x 54.5 mm)
    Weight: 7.05 oz (200 g)

    Olympus 25mm f/1.8
    Dimensions (DxL): Approx. 2.2 x 1.6" (5.59 x 4.06 cm)
    Weight: 4.8 oz (136 g)
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