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Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by jerrykur, Dec 20, 2012.
Is there such a thing? Something that is f4 or faster and is 24-105 in 35 mm.
Closest ist the Panasonic 12-35mm f/2.8
Even in full frame, it is rare to find 24-105 (or similar) in faster than f/4... 24-70 f/2.8 yes... but longer with f/2.8 is rare. The only lens that comes close is my Tamron 35-105 f/2.8 Aspherical (Canon EOS mount) which is awesome. Of course, there is the Canon 24-105 f/4L which I found a pleasure to use on both 1DMarkII and 5d.
The two best are made by Panasonic both have L lens sharpness and IS.
the Panasonic 12-35 f/2.8 (FF = 24-70)
the Panasonic 35-100 f/2.8 (FF = 70-200)
... and both are not cheap, both are weather-proofed and the 35-100 internally focuses.
It doesn't exist (nor even a less ambitious 28-105/3.5-4.5 equivalent). The biggest current hole in the m4/3 lens lineup IMO.
At the moment, the closest you can get is the 4/3 14-54II, but you need the 4/3 to m4/3 adapter, you lose native AF speed, and it is fairly large.
I've been using the Leica D 14-50/2.8-3.5. OIS is functional, AF speed is tectonic, optics and mechano-electronics are superb - it's the closest to parfocal of any of the 4/3 zooms in that range (important since I'm mostly a video guy). Even if it's "by wire," I also like having an aperture dial on the lens. It may be a bit large for m43, but that's a function of physics.
I'm with you, though, I wouldn't mind seeing something native, updated, and constant. I like the 12-35, but prefer a wider range on most jobs.
Im waiting for Olympus to put one out. Its the only thing holding be back from ordering the 12-35 f2.8 right now.
If the rumors are to be believed we'll have to wait a while longer to get a decent midrange zoom. I also wish they came up with something like a 12-50something f2.8-3.5something.
Over at DPReview I started a thread about our mu43 dream-zoom.
If you could decide on the key-factors of Olympus new fast zoom lens....: Micro Four Thirds Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
The result was surprising to me insofar, as there were a lot of folk saying, they didn't care if the thing was large. They just want it to be good.
Me personally, I chose mu43 for a reason. I'd rather buy a light and sharp zoom that's not that fast (we still got primes) but has a little more reach than a bulky 3x zoom even if it had 2.8 constant aperture.
I would not say that the 24-105mm FX lenses are "fast" at f/4. "Fast" should be at least f/2.8, and in the FX world that usually breaks into ~24-70mm-ish and ~70-210mm-ish, which Panasonic has recently rolled out for m4/3.
The Panasonic 14-140mm and Olympus 14-150mm are both ~ f/4-f/5.6 over a much larger range than the 24-105 equivalent, so they might be worth considering.
And in the meantime, there are pictures to be made!!! :smile:
I'm still feeling the void of not having a really good long telephoto. I get better shots with my 40 year old (4 pound+ i know) Canon FD 85-300mm f4.5 than either the Oly or Panasonic equivalents.
Coming from Canon world there were great options like Tamron 17-50/2.8 for <$400 and the Sigma 17-50/2.8 for <$650. That's basically a 14-40 for m4/3s. We have plenty of 14-42 options, but none with that speed.
You really have to cough up some cash to get that 2.8 zoom in this format. Not sure why no one has come out with a lens with performance and cost of the Tamron or Sigma.
OLYMPUS ZUIKO 12-60mm F2.8-4 for m4/3
Wouldn't the OLYMPUS ZUIKO 12-60mm F2.8-4 for FT be a better match to the Canon 24-105 f/4L?
There was a rumor going around this past summer that Olympus was going to come out with a new :43: version of this lens. Having used the Canon 24-105 f/4L for several years I think that a :43: version of the OLYMPUS ZUIKO 12-60mm F2.8-4 would be great.
Those of you who used the OLYMPUS ZUIKO 12-60mm F2.8-4, how was it in everyday use?
The Oly 14-54 II with adapter on a current PEN or E-M5 is really really good. AF totally useable except for action. A bit big but with an E-M5 or G3/G5/GH3 it would be golden. Now I long for the G5 body on a lightning deal....oh wait...
Range-wise, yes. But the 14-54II is less compromised in terms of autofocus.
The ZD 12-60 is the main lens on my m4/3. Optically, it's a great lens throughout the zoom range, and it can focus very close (pseudo-macro).
The main problem is autofocus. It's slow to lock (1.5-2.5 seconds typically). It also has a habit of falsely confirming focus (10-15% of shots). Usually this visible in the viewfinder, but sometimes not.
For me, that makes it unsuitable for moving subjects. I actually do use it as my main walkaround lens - I prefer the optics to the 12-50, 14-42, 14-45 and even the 14-54II - but I do find myself missing or not attempting certain shots.
True that, but I make do with with 12mm and 25mm for now
Maybe we'll be lucky and Tamron will step into the ring with something similar. I also had the Tamron 17-50 2.8 (non VC) and together with the Canon 15-85 ist was the sharpest Zoom I ever had. It also was relatively small. If there was a mu43-version of this lens, it could be almost pocketable.
By the way: Didn't Tamron plan on entering the mu43 world?
Of course faster would be better, but constant f4 would work for me. On Canon FF you have the Canon 24-104 f4 L and 24-70 f2.8 L MK2. These are go to lenses and I want to find the m43 equivalents.
Tamron, Tokina and a company called Astrodesign (which developed the 4Ksysrem) all announced last January that they would be building :43: lenses. That's almost a year ago. We do have the newish 19mm and 30mm Sigma primes in :43: mount. But those are the only third-party lenses I have seen so far. But we should learn more in 2013.
I've made my peace with the 45-200, although I try not to go past 150 if I can. I wouldn't mind another zoom, shorter ranged but faster, with the same size and weight.
inb4 they make lenses for APS-C mirrorless and just make a mount for m43 just like Sigma