Where is the good, fast mid range zoom?

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by jerrykur, Dec 20, 2012.

  1. jerrykur

    jerrykur Mu-43 Regular

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    Aug 23, 2012
    Northern CA
    Is there such a thing? Something that is f4 or faster and is 24-105 in 35 mm.
     
  2. Closest ist the Panasonic 12-35mm f/2.8

    Even in full frame, it is rare to find 24-105 (or similar) in faster than f/4... 24-70 f/2.8 yes... but longer with f/2.8 is rare. The only lens that comes close is my Tamron 35-105 f/2.8 Aspherical (Canon EOS mount) which is awesome. Of course, there is the Canon 24-105 f/4L which I found a pleasure to use on both 1DMarkII and 5d.
     
  3. GaryAyala

    GaryAyala Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    SoCal
    The two best are made by Panasonic both have L lens sharpness and IS.

    the Panasonic 12-35 f/2.8 (FF = 24-70)

    the Panasonic 35-100 f/2.8 (FF = 70-200)

    ... and both are not cheap, both are weather-proofed and the 35-100 internally focuses.

    Gary
     
  4. dhazeghi

    dhazeghi Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Aug 6, 2010
    San Jose, CA
    Dara
    It doesn't exist (nor even a less ambitious 28-105/3.5-4.5 equivalent). The biggest current hole in the m4/3 lens lineup IMO.

    At the moment, the closest you can get is the 4/3 14-54II, but you need the 4/3 to m4/3 adapter, you lose native AF speed, and it is fairly large.
     
  5. McBob

    McBob Mu-43 Regular

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    Apr 22, 2012
    I've been using the Leica D 14-50/2.8-3.5. OIS is functional, AF speed is tectonic, optics and mechano-electronics are superb - it's the closest to parfocal of any of the 4/3 zooms in that range (important since I'm mostly a video guy). Even if it's "by wire," I also like having an aperture dial on the lens. It may be a bit large for m43, but that's a function of physics.

    I'm with you, though, I wouldn't mind seeing something native, updated, and constant. I like the 12-35, but prefer a wider range on most jobs.
     
  6. shizlefonizle

    shizlefonizle Mu-43 Veteran

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    Apr 21, 2012
    Im waiting for Olympus to put one out. Its the only thing holding be back from ordering the 12-35 f2.8 right now.
     
  7. Naftade

    Naftade Mu-43 Regular

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    Nov 23, 2012
    Munich, Germany
    If the rumors are to be believed we'll have to wait a while longer to get a decent midrange zoom. I also wish they came up with something like a 12-50something f2.8-3.5something.

    Over at DPReview I started a thread about our mu43 dream-zoom.

    If you could decide on the key-factors of Olympus new fast zoom lens....: Micro Four Thirds Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

    The result was surprising to me insofar, as there were a lot of folk saying, they didn't care if the thing was large. They just want it to be good.
    Me personally, I chose mu43 for a reason. I'd rather buy a light and sharp zoom that's not that fast (we still got primes) but has a little more reach than a bulky 3x zoom even if it had 2.8 constant aperture.
     
  8. jnewell

    jnewell Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 23, 2011
    Boston, MA
    I would not say that the 24-105mm FX lenses are "fast" at f/4. "Fast" should be at least f/2.8, and in the FX world that usually breaks into ~24-70mm-ish and ~70-210mm-ish, which Panasonic has recently rolled out for m4/3.

    The Panasonic 14-140mm and Olympus 14-150mm are both ~ f/4-f/5.6 over a much larger range than the 24-105 equivalent, so they might be worth considering.
     
  9. jnewell

    jnewell Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 23, 2011
    Boston, MA
    And in the meantime, there are pictures to be made!!! :smile: :wink:
     
  10. zapatista

    zapatista Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Mar 19, 2012
    Denver, Colorado, USA
    Mike
    I'm still feeling the void of not having a really good long telephoto. I get better shots with my 40 year old (4 pound+ i know) Canon FD 85-300mm f4.5 than either the Oly or Panasonic equivalents.
     
  11. demiro

    demiro Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Nov 7, 2010
    Coming from Canon world there were great options like Tamron 17-50/2.8 for <$400 and the Sigma 17-50/2.8 for <$650. That's basically a 14-40 for m4/3s. We have plenty of 14-42 options, but none with that speed.

    You really have to cough up some cash to get that 2.8 zoom in this format. Not sure why no one has come out with a lens with performance and cost of the Tamron or Sigma.
     
  12. Joe_B

    Joe_B Mu-43 Regular

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    Jul 4, 2012
    Davis, California
    OLYMPUS ZUIKO 12-60mm F2.8-4 for m4/3

    Wouldn't the OLYMPUS ZUIKO 12-60mm F2.8-4 for FT be a better match to the Canon 24-105 f/4L?

    There was a rumor going around this past summer that Olympus was going to come out with a new :43: version of this lens. Having used the Canon 24-105 f/4L for several years I think that a :43: version of the OLYMPUS ZUIKO 12-60mm F2.8-4 would be great.

    Those of you who used the OLYMPUS ZUIKO 12-60mm F2.8-4, how was it in everyday use?
     
  13. svtquattro

    svtquattro Mu-43 Veteran

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    Sep 24, 2012
    Vancouver, Canada
    The Oly 14-54 II with adapter on a current PEN or E-M5 is really really good. AF totally useable except for action. A bit big but with an E-M5 or G3/G5/GH3 it would be golden. Now I long for the G5 body on a lightning deal....oh wait...
     
  14. dhazeghi

    dhazeghi Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Aug 6, 2010
    San Jose, CA
    Dara
    Range-wise, yes. But the 14-54II is less compromised in terms of autofocus.

    The ZD 12-60 is the main lens on my m4/3. Optically, it's a great lens throughout the zoom range, and it can focus very close (pseudo-macro).

    The main problem is autofocus. It's slow to lock (1.5-2.5 seconds typically). It also has a habit of falsely confirming focus (10-15% of shots). Usually this visible in the viewfinder, but sometimes not.

    For me, that makes it unsuitable for moving subjects. I actually do use it as my main walkaround lens - I prefer the optics to the 12-50, 14-42, 14-45 and even the 14-54II - but I do find myself missing or not attempting certain shots.
     
  15. shizlefonizle

    shizlefonizle Mu-43 Veteran

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    Apr 21, 2012
    True that, but I make do with with 12mm and 25mm for now
     
  16. Naftade

    Naftade Mu-43 Regular

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    Nov 23, 2012
    Munich, Germany
    Maybe we'll be lucky and Tamron will step into the ring with something similar. I also had the Tamron 17-50 2.8 (non VC) and together with the Canon 15-85 ist was the sharpest Zoom I ever had. It also was relatively small. If there was a mu43-version of this lens, it could be almost pocketable.

    By the way: Didn't Tamron plan on entering the mu43 world?
     
  17. jerrykur

    jerrykur Mu-43 Regular

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    Aug 23, 2012
    Northern CA
    Of course faster would be better, but constant f4 would work for me. On Canon FF you have the Canon 24-104 f4 L and 24-70 f2.8 L MK2. These are go to lenses and I want to find the m43 equivalents.
     
  18. Biro

    Biro Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    May 8, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Tamron, Tokina and a company called Astrodesign (which developed the 4Ksysrem) all announced last January that they would be building :43: lenses. That's almost a year ago. We do have the newish 19mm and 30mm Sigma primes in :43: mount. But those are the only third-party lenses I have seen so far. But we should learn more in 2013.
     
  19. drd1135

    drd1135 Zen Snapshooter Subscribing Member

    Mar 17, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    I've made my peace with the 45-200, although I try not to go past 150 if I can. I wouldn't mind another zoom, shorter ranged but faster, with the same size and weight.
     
  20. shizlefonizle

    shizlefonizle Mu-43 Veteran

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    Apr 21, 2012

    inb4 they make lenses for APS-C mirrorless and just make a mount for m43 just like Sigma