What's wrong with these pictures ?

Discussion in 'Street, Documentary, and Portrait' started by Bhupinder2002, Feb 9, 2014.

  1. Bhupinder2002

    Bhupinder2002 Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

  2. Ricoh

    Ricoh Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Nov 2, 2013
    Not much, other than the background in 1-5 is a bit busy and distracting.
  3. Just Jim

    Just Jim Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Oct 20, 2011
    The weather is too nice as I sit in a foot of crunchy week old snow at 0 degree's.
  4. janneman

    janneman Mu-43 Veteran

    Dec 6, 2012
    Jan (John) Kusters
    Saturation (colour intensity) seems a bit high; could be an in-camera setting or pp result. The red channel is on the border of overblown.

    For what it's worth; I like them like this, intense colours go well with this kind of subject.
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  5. deang001

    deang001 Mu-43 Veteran

    Sep 16, 2013
    Hong Kong
    They're all ladyboys? :eek:
  6. Ricoh

    Ricoh Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Nov 2, 2013
    Ha, yeah, missed the weather thing, as I shelter from the rain!
  7. Ricoh

    Ricoh Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Nov 2, 2013
    Most of the ones in 7 looks like a girls to me!
  8. Bhupinder2002

    Bhupinder2002 Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Thanks a lot mate :2thumbs:
    I shot RAW and PPd in Snapspeed .
    Here is untreated RAW file .. Just converted to JPEG
    image by bhupinder2002, on Flickr
  9. phl0wtography

    phl0wtography Mu-43 Veteran

    Apr 15, 2011
    For one, you stripped them off their EXIF :wink:
    Well, you're an apt, and experienced photographer, so I don't quite get what your intention is. But I'll give it a go, risking to oversee the trick question:
    Other than the 6th, they all lack a noticeable plane of focus, thus crispness. Checking the stage of the dancers, even that is "muddy"/not critically focused. Looks like front focused with too shallow DoF. Are those from the O45? I often noticed with my O45, that it has difficulties despite confirmed AF-lock getting the focus right when the distance to my subject is greater than your regular portrait-style distance. Also, its rendering significantly weakens when the lens leaves its comfort zone, resulting in washed out detail.
  10. CarlB

    CarlB Mu-43 Veteran

    The event's staging means busy backgrounds. I'd suggest play with background shading and perhaps a touch of artificial bokeh for the backgrounds. Don't over-do such treatment, if it's too noticeable it's distracting.

    Vignetting can mix a bit of both gradation and edge blurring. Depending on the tool, you have more or less control.
    Bottom-up gradation darkening, especially for things you'd perceive could drop-off in light can be fun.

    Perhaps I overdid this a bit, but you can get the idea ...

    <img src=https://www.mu-43.com/gallery/uploads/6423/bhu1.jpg>

    The photo of locks might focus the viewer a bit with right-to-left ND gradation ...
  11. MajorMagee

    MajorMagee Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 24, 2011
    Dayton, OH
    Even with keeping an eye on the histogram for ETTR exposures it's all too easy to blow out the highlights of the red channel and lose those details.
  12. geoawelch

    geoawelch Mu-43 Regular

    Nov 18, 2011
    George Welch
    I wonder how the images would have been with a slower shutter speed, thus conveying more movement of the dancers rather than freezing them?
  13. 0dBm

    0dBm Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jun 30, 2011
    Western United States
    First, please tell us what were your goals, if any, with these images.

    When I capture stills, I first decide what I want to depict. Is it a single subject or the environment.

    As an example, there is a uniqueness in the foot placement and type of shoes of the dancers. That alone is a worthy image.

    Another is the vividness of the reds in the scene. The color dominates the image. I would have used a slower shutter to showcase movement of that color.

    Still another are the facial expression of the dancers. That type of image gravitates towards what I call a Caesar bust category of portraiture.

    I would have used a ND32 filter then concentrated on the frontmost dancer such as in image #2. Crop it tightly so that you have both arms and what each hand is holding, and from the waist up. Then darken the background in processing to emphasize the dancers lovely face.

    Take image # 3 and crop it tightly so that only the rightmost dancer and her props fills the image. What you have is single-subject isolation with a dancer in mid-flight!

    Do the same thing with image #4's rightmost dancer. Crop it tightly on the left to exclude the red prop of dancer #2. Leave some breathing room on the right.

    Take image #3, crop it on the right side to exclude dancer #4 just past her foot, then crop it on the left just past dancer #2's left shoulder. Then crop it up top to include the shadow of the building and what's on top of it, but exclude the ornaments. The result is a diagonal line formed by dancer #3's right-hand prop, the left-hand prop and the shadow of whatever is on top of the building. The vertical support beam adds to the depth of the image and will appear that the dancer is somewhat pivoting on that support beam.

    Hope this helps a bit
  14. RevBob

    RevBob Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Jun 4, 2011
    NorthWestern PA
    I agree with the busy background in the first five, but that's the nature of the event so not much can be done about it. I like the stronger saturation, but that's personal preference. Maybe some sort of frame or vingetting would pull the eye into the center of the images a bit better. Overall, they look good to me.
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