What's the best balance of telephoto and discreet appearance?

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by brettmaxwell, Jan 26, 2015.

  1. brettmaxwell

    brettmaxwell Mu-43 Veteran

    Dec 8, 2012
    I'm trying to figure what lens for m4/3 would be good for travel and wanting to capture tighter shots of people at cultural events, while not looking intimidating or obnoxious. The new P35-100 seems like an obvious choice, but I'm thinking I'd like something that can go to a 300mm equivalent, or longer. The 100-300 obviously has great reach, but seems like it would stand out in a crowd, especially when extended. Perhaps the P45-175, especially since it doesn't expand when it zooms? What do you think?
  2. CiaranCReilly

    CiaranCReilly Mu-43 Veteran

    Oct 18, 2012
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    Couldn't go too far wrong with an Olympus 40-150 f/4-5.6 - very sharp, small and discrete. Edit: it does stuck out when extended but for the price perhaps this could be forgiven. It's definitely not as massive as the 100-300
  3. flamingfish

    flamingfish Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Nov 16, 2012
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    I think you're probably right with the P45-175, because of the non-expansion thing and also because it's a nice lens, unless you want to go with the greater flexibility of the Oly 14-150.
  4. Halaking

    Halaking Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Dec 17, 2012
    Los Angeles
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    P45-175 has internal power zoom, it's also good for video, but the P45-150 is shorter in size.

    P45-175 Approx. 2.43 x 3.54" (61.6 x 90 mm) VS P45-150 Approx. 2.44 x 2.87" (62 x 73 mm)
  5. brettmaxwell

    brettmaxwell Mu-43 Veteran

    Dec 8, 2012
    Yes, when closed, but with both zoomed to 150mm the P45-175 is significantly shorter since it doesn't extend.
  6. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    I would say the 45-175, definitely. It still looks like a long-ish lens, but not at all like a 350mm equivalent one...
  7. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
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    I wouldn'y go so far as to call the Pany 100-300 or the Oly 75-300 "massive". I've a Tamron 75-300 in Nikon mount that is almost double the size of either of those.

    Unless we are talking the 40-150/2.8 Olympus there really are no m43 lenses that are going to stick out that much. Hell, I'd go so far as to say that the actions of a photographer are more likely to get you noticed then the dimensions of the gear used.
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  8. brettmaxwell

    brettmaxwell Mu-43 Veteran

    Dec 8, 2012
  9. hobbes266

    hobbes266 Mu-43 Regular

    May 19, 2014
    Gold Coast, Australia
    What about the 75mm 1.8?
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  10. Promit

    Promit Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 6, 2011
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    The lack of extension in the 45-175 makes it an unusually subtle lens. Without the hood, there's little to suggest you're zoomed way in on subjects.
  11. brettmaxwell

    brettmaxwell Mu-43 Veteran

    Dec 8, 2012
    I owned that a couple years ago with an EM5, fantastic lens, but for this use I'm wanting more reach and don't need the large aperture.
  12. Effuse

    Effuse Mu-43 Regular

    Aug 21, 2014
    BC, Canada
    Well, For ultimate compactness the Panny 35-100mm wins hands down, but is only 200m Equivalent on the long end, So probably not what you are looking for but It's definitely and option
  13. wjiang

    wjiang Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    +1 on the 45-175. Some of my thoughts on buying the lens from this post onwards: https://www.mu-43.com/showthread.php?t=70561&p=713110

    It's quite slim and light for a telephoto zoom, making packing and lens changing easier. The lack of extension is the most amazing part - hand-holding is easier and it's very inconspicuous. People cannot really tell it's a telephoto that goes all the way out to 350mm equivalent! The same cannot be said of the 40-150R - it doubles in length, which really gets people's attention.
  14. GRID

    GRID Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 22, 2011
    pana 14-140?
  15. hobbes266

    hobbes266 Mu-43 Regular

    May 19, 2014
    Gold Coast, Australia
    Manual lenses ok? What about a CZJ 135mm 3.5 with adapter? But perhaps the Pan 45-175 is similar with more reach and autofocus.
  16. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, CA
    My vote goes to the 45-175 lens as well. Though for the price the 45-150mm isn't bad at all and optically just as sharp in my opinion.
  17. WasOM3user

    WasOM3user Mu-43 Veteran

    Oct 20, 2012
    Lancashire, UK
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    We have both the Oly 40-150 and Pana 45-175 and would comment that the Oly is ridiculously good for the money but the 45-175 slightly outperforms it on both our Oly and Pana bodies (EM-5, G3 and EPL-3)

    No it's not as good value for money but the handling is a lot easier at 125mm plus focal lengths where the Pana is already optically better giving better results.

    We used the lens on a Rhine trip and it was excellent both for long range shots and isolating people or details from events and crowds whilst being unobtrusive.

    Another advantage is the 46mm thread size which is the same as Pana 14mm, Oly 25mm etc.

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  18. Drdave944

    Drdave944 Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Feb 2, 2012
    Whatever you use it should make no difference. I take a lot of candids and I don't care what the size of your camera or lens you will get the about same number of scowles and smiles no matter what lens you use. Actually the more gigantic the telephoto you have the less aware people are.
  19. dancebert

    dancebert Mu-43 Veteran

    Jan 18, 2014
    Hua Hin, Thailand
    Agreed on photographer actions.

    As for lenses sticking out, 'too much' is determined by the subjects. When I do street photography with the O40-150 at 40mm I get the annoyed expressions. Switch to 150mm and I get glares and scowls.
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