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What does the EVF do on the new G3?

Discussion in 'Panasonic Cameras' started by Johnny1.33, Jun 6, 2011.

  1. Johnny1.33

    Johnny1.33 Mu-43 Regular

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    Jun 4, 2011
    Not having looked through one before...is it just a small LCD, the same as what you see on the back screen?

    When you press the shutter does it go black for a second like the back LCD?
     
  2. Danny_Two

    Danny_Two Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 30, 2010
    London
    Yeah, pretty much, and it will display the shot for a moment like the lcd does.
    In normal light you won't even be aware its and evf, can get a bit grainy in low light though.
     
  3. ddegomez

    ddegomez Mu-43 Regular

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    Apr 7, 2011
    I use a Gh1 and I LOVE the Pannasonic EVF. It's very much like a SLR. Danny_Two says it can get a bit grainy? That's because, unlike SLRs, at lower light levels the camera temporarily boosts the ISO so the viewfinder brightness stays constant. Manual focus with alot of grain can make focus difficult but low light focus with a SLR can be hard too.
     
  4. John M Flores

    John M Flores Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 7, 2011
    Somerville, NJ
    One difference between the GH1 and the GH2 is that you can set the GH2 to not boost the signal in low light, essentially giving you a live preview of the exposure based on the current aperture, shutter speed, and ISO. When you underexpose, you see a dim image in the EVF. Likewise, in a dark room, you see a dark image without grain - unless you opening the aperture, slowing the shutter or raising the ISO to capture more light than what is there.

    I don't know if the G3 behaves like the GH1 or the GH2 in this regard.
     
  5. ddegomez

    ddegomez Mu-43 Regular

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    Apr 7, 2011
    Yes, I wish my Gh1 had that feature (some thing else for new Gh1 firmware to correct). I also use a Ep1 and it does have that feature. I use my Ep1 with a shaded LCD magnifier, and no matter which screen is up I can tell at a glance if I need more or less exposure.
     
  6. shoturtle

    shoturtle  

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    Oct 15, 2010
    Also the GH1/2 has a higher res evf then all the previous pannys. Think it is the same one in the G3.
     
  7. semma

    semma Mu-43 Regular

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    Nov 9, 2010
    Is this so??? I tought the evf of the G1 is exactly the same as that one on the GH1
     
  8. Bill

    Bill Mu-43 Regular

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    Apr 15, 2009
    Brisbane, Australia
    Bill (really)
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font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} ********> <![endif]--> Panasonic makes professional video cameras. They grabbed the viewfinder technology from those products for all the G series cameras (except, I think the G10). Unlike most viewfinders, the Panasonic EVF shows each of the colours in sequence, but fast enough that your brain puts the images together to make a single colour image. This is the reason why the image doesn’t show the pixels in the way that other viewfinders do.

    I haven’t seen the G3 yet, but the switching rate (between the colours) is reported to have increased. This should improve the image quality and reduce what’s called “tearing” when the image (or the eye) moves quickly.[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
     
  9. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

    Jul 18, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    Ugh, I hate Live View Boost for general purpose. Thankfully, that has been a custom option on every Olympus camera since it first began, and has never been added automatically.

    That said... there is one place where I find Live Boost to be very useful, and that is for shooting with manual strobe lights. Live View Boost then allows you to see an uncompensated view, since you will be compensating for the lights when they get fired. You'll still be able to focus and compose the image easily, but will have to wait until the strobes have fired and the photo is taken before you can get an idea of how spot on your exposure was. ;)
     
  10. shoturtle

    shoturtle &nbsp;

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    Oct 15, 2010
    they went with the newer epson evf for the gh camera. It is a higher res evf for the gh2, with a updated lcd as well form the previous. The GH1 had the same one form the previous models. My mistake about the GH1.
     
  11. Johnny1.33

    Johnny1.33 Mu-43 Regular

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    Jun 4, 2011
    I could not find a Panasonic to look at an EVF but at best buy they had fixed lens cameras for Canon and Nikon. These two had an EVF. First time I had ever seen one. It was strange but I realize it was new to me. Then the blank out came with taking the picture. What's the refresh rate on say the GH2 for the EVF? I don't know how I could live with the blank out of the EVF and I can definitely see why the m4/3 is not ready for sports (not that I'm a big sports shooter, just making an observation). I really really wanted to like an EVF but i don't really see the purpose beyond bright light with the black out inside the evf.
     
  12. ~tc~

    ~tc~ Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Oct 22, 2010
    Houston, TX
    You can't compare a compact to the state-of-the-art ILC. Go to a "real" camera store and check out the GH1 or GH2 before assuming it will or won't meet your needs.
     
  13. Johnny1.33

    Johnny1.33 Mu-43 Regular

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    Jun 4, 2011
    That's what I'm hoping. It was a huge turn off. But there's nothing like that were I live in Atlanta, GA. What's the difference in something like the GH2 EVF and those compacts?

    EDIT: I just learned that a Sony SLT A55 has a EVF and not an optical viewfinder. I think that's what I read. Is it like the Panasonic's? I can see the Sony in the store.

    EDIT: Does the GH2 have a "rainbow" when you look around in thew viewfinder?

    Thanks for helping me.
     
  14. ~tc~

    ~tc~ Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Oct 22, 2010
    Houston, TX
    I would assume the Sony SLT will be a much closer approximation. I haven't looked through one though, so I don't know.

    I didn't see any issues with the GH2, but then, I didn't spend a lot of time with it either.

    In a big city like Atlanta, there has to be somewhere ... of course, that said, there appears to only be one Panasonic dealer in Houston ...

    The other option would be one of the "add on" finders from Oly or Panny. The Panny one has much lower resolution than the built in ones, but would give you a better idea about black out, etc. Wolf/Ritz carries the Olympus PEN's, but usually the accessory selection is dismal.