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Weight of Pana 100-400?

Discussion in 'Micro 4/3 News and Rumors' started by Tom Gross, Nov 17, 2015.

  1. Tom Gross

    Tom Gross New to Mu-43

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    Apr 3, 2015
    Anyone seen or heard estimate of new Pana 100-400? I heard 2090g, but cannot verify, AND that sounds awfully heavy. Canon only weighs 1570g.
     
  2. mattia

    mattia Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 3, 2012
    The Netherlands
    Nobody knows yet, but that kind of weight would surprise me. I would expect around the 1200 to 1400 gram mark, I would prefer under 1kg
     
  3. Speedliner

    Speedliner Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 2, 2015
    Southern NJ, USA
    Rob
    I'd expect it to be lighter than the Oly 4/3 70-300.
     
  4. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    No weight so far, but the lens might be announced officially sometime in December. So all there is now is educated guesses.

    You can use the Canon EF 100-400 as the absolute upper bounds of your weight limit - that's 1390g.

    It is about the same size physically as the Oly 40-150/2.8, which weighs 880g, but it has telescoping elements inside, whereas the Oly is an internal zoom, so I imagine there's a bit more weight to account for there. In terms of the glass itself, it will need elements that are slightly larger than the Olympus for its aperture range.

    My best estimate from those other lenses is right around 1000-1100g.
     
  5. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 3, 2014
    I heard it was around 2200g from the Panny rep who as at my local camera store yesterday. He also hinted that the price was going to be in the neighborhood of $2,200.
     
  6. nstelemark

    nstelemark Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 28, 2013
    Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada
    Larry
    Ouch, not so much the price as the weight. That is heavier than the 150f2. Hermmm....
     
  7. tkbslc

    tkbslc Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    2200g?! I find that extremely hard to believe. Sigma's 50-500mm OS and 150-600mm OS C are both under 2000g and they are both massive lenses with much more range.
     
  8. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    Both the price and the weight sound very suspect...

    That's 50% heavier than a Canon 100-400 II, and the same price. Maybe I could believe the price. But the weight is just impossible for a lens that small. We've seen pictures of it in people's hands now. It would have to made of lead.
     
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  9. nstelemark

    nstelemark Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 28, 2013
    Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada
    Larry
    Latest on 43 rumors:

    A second trusted source confirmed the new Leica 100-400mm lens will be announced in February at Cp+ show. And yes the price should be around $2,500 (Panasonic did not share him the exact final price info).

    The source also had the final prototype lens in his hand and said he was actually “impressed how small it is” compared of the impression you get from the pictures. It’s close to the size of the 35-100mm X lens.

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    Bonne surprise sur le stand de Panasonic, nous avons pu prendre en main une maquette de leur futur super téléobjectif : un 100-400 mm signé Leica ouvrant à f/4-6,3. L'objectif sera probablement lancé officiellement en début d'année. Il dispose d'une stabilisation optique et est très compact et léger. Nous avons hâte de pouvoir le tester sur le terrain l'année prochaine.

    Quick translation:

    We had in our hands a nice surprise from Panasonic (the 100-400 f4-6.3). The lens will likely be officially released at the beginning of 2016. It has optical stabilization and is very compact and light. We are really looking forward to testing it next year.

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    This I could be interested in for travel etc.
     
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  10. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    Nice size, shame about the price. That $2500 seems really excessive, and will be a dealbreaker for many people.

    From that picture, it looks very similar to the 40-150/2.8.

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  11. 50orsohours

    50orsohours Mu-43 All-Pro

    Oct 13, 2013
    Portland Oregon
    I really like m4/3 but that price - if true is way over priced. Can't you buy a canon 7d mark II and a 100-400 for that price?
     
  12. Hypilein

    Hypilein Mu-43 Veteran

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    Mar 18, 2015
    You could buy one of those fancy autofocus adapters + lens instead of carrying around another body. That said, I get increasingly suspicious about the click-baitish articles over at 43rumors. The only price we had mentioned from a relatively reputable source was in SEK and directly converting that price ist just silly. Seems a lot of panasonic reps are not really in the know of most things either (otherwise we would have way more leaks).

    I think the weight speculations in this thread sound more likely. I don't think price is going to be over 2000$ and probably around 1800-1900. Still more than I can afford anyway.
     
  13. mattia

    mattia Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 3, 2012
    The Netherlands
    That kind of price for a lens this slow is excessive - Tamron has an excellent 150-600 (which on APS-C gives you roughly this FOV) which is much cheaper than these prices, Sigma has a similar lens, with similar speed. This is playing in Canon's mark II lens price range with a slower aperture.
     
  14. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    If that price holds true, that should be something for a faster optic, even if variable...perhaps an f/2.8-4 or a constant f/4.

    Can't argue with the reach that it will effectively give you.
     
  15. tkbslc

    tkbslc Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    I get $3498 at Adorama if I add a new 7Dmk2 and 100-400mm II to my cart. The new 100-400 II is $2200 and the 7Dmk2 is $1300, even with Holiday special pricing ($500 instant rebate).

    You can get the old 90's era 100-400 slide zoom for $1400, so maybe that's what you meant? But I hardly think you can compare that with a brand new 2016 Leica Model.

    FWIW, Nikon's brand new 80-400 is $2300 street price, too. So honestly, $2500 MSRP seems pretty normal if it is truly pro-quality.
     
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  16. mattia

    mattia Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 3, 2012
    The Netherlands
    If we were talking a lens with an F/5.6 maximum aperture I would tend to agree, although I still think those lenses are at the upper range of acceptable prices, but this lens is pretty darn slow.
     
  17. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    f6.3 is only 1/3 stop slower than f5.6. It's difficult for me to imagine a scenario where that's the dealbreaker.

    Maybe, maybe if you were already shooting at ISO 6400 in very low light and it was going to push you to ISO 8000, I guess. But that's an incredibly marginal situation, and you're almost certainly use the wrong system for the job at that point.
     
  18. nstelemark

    nstelemark Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 28, 2013
    Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada
    Larry
    It will be interesting to see the aperture/focal length curve. f4 to f5.6 is no problem at longer focal lengths. There is lots of background compression already. I am personally willing to wait and see.
     
  19. tkbslc

    tkbslc Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    It's 1/3 of a stop and f5.6 is already a daylight only lens. What difference does it make?
    Yes it is an expensive lens, but high quality 400mm zooms are expensive on every system. At least you get 800mm equivalent reach from it on m4/3.
     
  20. Speedliner

    Speedliner Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 2, 2015
    Southern NJ, USA
    Rob
    Seems the new MFT lenses are priced at a premium. From a material and process standpoint they should be less expensive than their DSLR counterparts. i know, I know, equivalence makes them similar to much more expensive lenses in FF, but nevertheless the MFT lenses are smaller with less glass than their physical spec equivalents.

    They just seem overpriced. I guess we're paying for MFT's low volume and amortization of development cost over fewer lenses than other formats.