Updating travel kit

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I agree with everyone's suggestions about IBIS, but I'd offer that Olympus's, in my experience, is something magical. I sold a GX9 because the IBIS was so subtle that I couldn't tell if it was even functional compared to my previous Olympus. Even 1/4-second exposures would turn out blurry.
I have a GX9 and agree that the IBIS isn't that great. Maybe only good for 2 stops? But I've also had a G85 and have a G9 and the IBIS is much better. G85's IBIS was close to my EM5.2's IBIS.
 

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Given your limited usage of the 9-18mm, I would sell it and get the Laowa 10mm f2 lens, it really is superb optically, and TINY, gives you a great all-purpose wide-angle.

I would also second the recommendations of upgrading the camera for a better VF and IBIS. maybe OM10iv or OM5iii, or even an older 5ii.
 

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Hello

I currently have a M43 travel camera kit that I purchased about 5-6 years ago looking for better photos and small. I wanted the whole kit under 1kg which it is. My current kit GM5, Oly 9-18, Pan 15f1.7 and Pan 35-100 f3.5-5.6?(the small one) with charger, spare batteries, the tiny flash, sd cards with holder comes in about about 1kg. I mainly travel by bike going A to B so nothing can be left behind for a day.

I have had a few problems with this kit and have changed my mind on the 1kg limit raising that to 1.5kg hoping that new/better gear will help with my short coming in the kit.

Problem #1 the Oly 9-18 is good for outside landscape but truly lacks ability in taking handheld picture of building interiors.

Problem #2 I would like more reach in the telephoto.

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#1 with the small red GM5 I have no problem with anti professional camera rule, even when seeing these rules applied to things like the X-pro1 with lens

#2 The small size has all lenses in handlebar bag for easy changing

#3 I like the 15mm view point

Current use rate for lenses about 15mm 50%, 9-18 15% and 35-100 35%. Keeper rate is about the same.

I am looking for suggests that will improve my kit. I want to keep my total kit below 1.5kg current camera+lenses is 620g and other items are 300g. Price range for upgrades is $3000.

Thank you for your help.
If you're happy with the optical performance of the 9-18, then I'd suggest upgrading to a camera with in-body stabilization. The stabilization of the GX85/GX9 bodies is ok but falls short of what you'd get in an EM5.2 or higher, or a G85 or higher. On the other hand, the faux-SLR bodies might be an issue with places that have a "no professional cameras" rule. On the other hand, as you've pointed out, faux-RF bodies aren't immune to that, either.

For more reach, consider the Panasonic 45-175 or 100-300 II (the 100-300 might be best used as a 100-200 or 100-250).
 

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If you don't need the ultrawide and you want to get out beyond 100mm, I'd go:

EM5 III
Oly 12-40
Pana 45-175
PL 15

You could add your 9-18 in or a Laowa 7.5, but that would put you a little over your target weight.


Alternatively, you could replace the 12-40 with the PL 8-18 or 8-25 if you prefer wide. If needed you could add a 25mm prime to bridge the gap between the 18 and 45.

The 45-175 is very nice combination of size, weight, performance, and price.
 

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That may be, but I've found I often need the f/2.8 for indoor shooting without a flash.
Well the PL15/1.7 is even brighter than f/2.8 of course and indoors it’s a good focal length for many things (but not everything). On that basis I recommended the 12-45mm due to the 33% weight reduction vs 12-40mm which seems to be important to the OP.
 

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Well the PL15/1.7 is even brighter than f/2.8 of course and indoors it’s a good focal length for many things (but not everything). On that basis I recommended the 12-45mm due to the 33% weight reduction vs 12-40mm which seems to be important to the OP.
It depends. I have the PL 15mm and the Panasonic 20mm (just sold the Olympus 12mm and Olympus 25mm). If I can chose where I'm shooting from the primes work well. I do likethe PL 15, and I find its focal length to be just about perfect for many things. But a lot of times, I don't have the option to move about, and the zoom becomes more important. Different strokes for different folks.

I usually carry the 15mm and 20mm in my bag, in case I need them. But more often I use the 12-40mm.

I bought the 12-40mm many years ago, so the 12-45mm wasn't an option.
 

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Thank you all for your reply to my question about upgrading my system.

As for the high use of 15mm it is because it is my only lens that is fast enough for interior photos in dimmer buildings.

The 9-18, I like the focus range but not being too slow for indoor use by me hand held.

When looking at total photo taken even with other lens I have a spike at 15 with some 9-18 and very small spike at 25(another prime), a spike at 30&35-40, a spike at about 70 and a spike of 100 being my longest focal length. Outside of the 9-18 with my other zones I only use a few lengths.
 

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If aiming for low weight, and assuming the small prime remains in both cases, the 12-45mm PRO is a better choice than the 12-40mm PRO.
That's true. If weight is a priority, the 12-45 is the way to go. I think I was hung up on the lowlight issues OP had with the 9-18. It might be that IBIS in a new body would overcome that at wider angles.

If the longer range wasn't needed, I would have just suggested a newer Olympus body, a 12-100, and the 15mm.
 

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Olympus really needs a light, compact, PRO telephoto to complement the 12-45/4.
I agree, but are you thinking in terms of a Pro-level 40-150 (but smaller than the current one; i.e. presumably slower), or a Pro version of the 75-300 (can't get much slower!). Or perhaps a Pro, lighter version of the P 35-100? I'd be interested in any one of those, although the P 35-100 2.8 seems to have that covered, I guess.
 
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I agree, but are you thinking in terms of a Pro-level 40-150 (but smaller than the current one; i.e. presumably slower), or a Pro version of the 75-300 (can't get much slower!). Or perhaps a Pro, lighter version of the P 35-100? I'd be interested in any one of those, although the P 35-100 2.8 seems to have that covered, I guess.
It's on there roadmap.

I suspect a 45-200/4 or 4.5. Likely not internal zoom like the 40-150/2.8 PRO. No TC compatibility. Maybe lens-IS...maybe not. Affordable like the 12-45/4. which, frankly, is an excellent value in the m43 world. I'd snap that kit up in a flash even though I already have the 2.8 PRO trinity. f/4.5 with lens stabilization would take that half-stop hit off for tele work. Objective is to keep it small. EM5 series. Ideal kit for the OP.

The 75-300 is a less expensive, consumer wildlife lens and long tele IMO, maybe too much tele for most shooters. The 14-150 and 12-200 are compromised, all-in-one travel lenses. All with variable aperture. Robust, but not PRO.

Right now the 12-45 is an orphan...either it's a stack of (slow) primes or a PRO outdoor ready travel lens requiring telephoto pairing. Ironically, I suspect slower "outdoor" glass helps sell "faster" indoor primes.
 

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That doesn't help OMDS.
It conflicts with the 12-100/4.
Not enough tele, not in m43 land.

I would love something in the f4-4.5 range that compliments the 12-100. 75-250 or something.

I'm having a hard time justifying carrying anything longer due to overlap and the crop quality of the 12-100 up to 150ish.
 

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What happened to "light and compact"? 🤣
I think that they could presumably add some reach (125, maybe even 150) to a lens like the P 35-100 2.8 and make it an f4, and it would be just about perfect for what I want. Olympus is starting to do the slower/lighter thing with other Pro lenses (e.g. 8-25), so they seem to be understanding what I want somewhat. :)
 

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