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Update on Panasonic Leica DG Summilux Clicking Noise on Olympus Pen Bodies

Discussion in 'Micro 4/3 News and Rumors' started by Amin Sabet, Dec 14, 2011.

  1. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    There has been a fair amount of discussion about clicking aperture noises coming from the Panasonic Leica 25mm f/1.4 DG Summilux lens when used on Olympus PEN bodies, and I reached out to contacts at Panasonic regarding this issue.

    The folks at Panasonic were responsive, able to reproduce the problem, and quickly determined that it is likely an Olympus camera firmware issue. They reached out to Olympus, who were aware of the issue. Olympus is currently studying the problem and do not see a need to work with Panasonic to solve it but cannot commit to any timeline for a fix.

    At this point, I think that those who are affected and want a remedy may want to contact Olympus directly to voice their concerns.
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  2. timothysoong

    timothysoong Mu-43 Veteran

    Aug 10, 2011
    Taipei, Taiwan
    Hope they come up with a fix soon.
  3. Livnius

    Livnius Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Jul 7, 2011
    Melbourne. Australia
    Interesting. Great work Amin.
  4. stillshunter

    stillshunter Mu-43 Regular

    Sep 27, 2011
    Still don't regret the shift to a GF1, but this is great news for Oly folks. Great news Amin...knew you could do it mate :2thumbs:
  5. Muntjack

    Muntjack Mu-43 Veteran

    Jul 26, 2010
    Well done Amin.... hope it'll be soon or I will be moving to Panny bodies from now on.

  6. grantb

    grantb Mu-43 Veteran

    ...and THIS is what's in it for Olympus.

    I've seen it commented before that Olympus have no motivation for fixing issues with Panasonic lenses on their bodies.
  7. okinana

    okinana Mu-43 Veteran

    Sep 21, 2011
    Philadelphia, PA
    I will wait for the fix before I decide to buy.

    Thanks a lot Amin.
  8. stratokaster

    stratokaster Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 4, 2011
    Dublin, IE
    Let's think...

    1) Lenses are more important than bodies.

    2) Right now Olympus makes only three lenses worth buying (9-18, 12, 45) as opposed to Panasonic who makes the whole range of high quality optics (7-14, 14, 20, PL25, PL45, 100-300).

    3) At least two Panasonic lenses (20 and PL25) rattle when used on Olympus bodies, but all Olympus lenses work fine on Panasonic bodies.

    I think it's fair to assume that a significant portion of Micro 4/3 shooters want to use Panasonic lenses - simply because there are no Olympus lenses as good as the 20mm pancake or PL25. If Olympus doesn't solve the problem, many of them will stay away from Olympus and buy Panasonic. In the end, Olympus will hurt themselves.
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  9. timothysoong

    timothysoong Mu-43 Veteran

    Aug 10, 2011
    Taipei, Taiwan
    Good thing that Ive chosen to go with Panasonic bodies at the very first place.
  10. Boyzo

    Boyzo Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Mar 3, 2010
    You also use earplugs :rofl:
  11. grantb

    grantb Mu-43 Veteran

    On top of that, those who switch to Panasonic bodies may be less likely to buy Oly lenses in the future due to lack of OIS.

    Anyway, it sounds like they are working on it, which is great for us Oly users and for the format in general.
  12. Bizzarrini

    Bizzarrini Mu-43 Regular

    Apr 26, 2011
    The Netherlands
    Don't agree with your assessment of good Olympus lenses. The 40-150 for example is a very very good lens (look at the review on slrgear.com), and the price is nothing but incredible. Furthermore, the Panasonic 14 is nice, but not amazing. Sharpness is comparable to the Oly 14-42 Mk2 kit zoom at 14mm and equal apertures. And, ignoring the price difference, the 75-300 is at least a match for the 100-300 if not better.
  13. stratokaster

    stratokaster Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 4, 2011
    Dublin, IE
    I agree that Olympus makes some good bargain lenses (like 17mm or 40-150mm), but are they really great?

    Also let's compare 75-300 and 100-300.

    1) 75-300 is slower (f/6.7 at the long end).
    2) 75-300 doesn't have OIS and IBIS is not effective at longer FL.
    3) 75-300 is twice as expensive.

    Unfortunately, SLRGear.com have not tested the 100-300mm yet, but their review of 75-300 is somewhat less than glowing. Basically they say the lens needs to be stopped down to f/11 at the long end to achieve good results. Shooting at 600mm EFL at f/11 and without OIS? Good luck with that.
  14. Bizzarrini

    Bizzarrini Mu-43 Regular

    Apr 26, 2011
    The Netherlands
    Well, the 17mm seems to be somewhat OK, but I think the 40-150mm is really underrated. Check the sharpness graphs on slrgear.com, quite amazing imho.

    Agree about the aperture and price of the 75-300. I've read that IBIS is supposed to be less effective at long FL, but I don't think anyone has said it's not effective at all?
  15. stratokaster

    stratokaster Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 4, 2011
    Dublin, IE
    Just tried to search Flickr for images from the Olympus 75-300 mm lens.

    NO results. It seems the lens is so great that nobody is buying it.
  16. Bizzarrini

    Bizzarrini Mu-43 Regular

    Apr 26, 2011
    The Netherlands
    I guess that means the iPhone 4 must be a great camera ;-)
  17. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Feb 19, 2010
    I think you need to add the 14-150 and the 40-150 on the Oly side. The 9-18 is clearly more popular than the 7-14, and the 45/1.8 has been rockin.

    The P20 is probably the gold standard, and the P14 and 25 are gettting a lot of love. The 100-300 (or the 75-300 for that matter) are specialist lenses.

    I think they are not that far apart in lens options/popularity, with the edge to Panny. I've never heard any major rattlesnake issue on the 20. I had that lens for 18 months on my EP1, I don't ever remember that. The 25 does make noise, but doesn't impact my shooting.

    I much prefer Oly bodies -- control, ergos, looks -- and I think others do, too. I don't think this one lens issue will sink their ship (just off the coast of the Cayman Islands -- sorry; just had to)
  18. stratokaster

    stratokaster Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 4, 2011
    Dublin, IE
    Don't get me wrong, the 75-300 could be a very good lens. But we will never know for sure because nobody will buy it.
  19. dhazeghi

    dhazeghi Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Aug 6, 2010
    San Jose, CA
    Thanks for the update. I guess the Olympus response is boiler-plate CYA, but it's still not entirely encouraging.

  20. Art

    Art Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 13, 2011
    San Francisco, CA
    I've never had problem with Panny 20 rattlesnake, I can't hear it. It should not be compared to PL25 which is so much louder that it amounts to a different problem. I think it's because the aperture blades are much bigger and the lens is brighter. Unlike 14-140 HD, PL25 doesn't have stepless aperture
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