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Top ISO: 3200 or 6400?

Discussion in 'Open Discussion' started by D7k1, May 26, 2019.

  1. 3200

    22 vote(s)
    34.9%
  2. 6400

    15 vote(s)
    23.8%
  3. 1600

    12 vote(s)
    19.0%
  4. 800

    5 vote(s)
    7.9%
  5. Never go higher than 200

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
  6. To The Moon Alice, to the Moon!

    5 vote(s)
    7.9%
  1. D7k1

    D7k1 Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Nov 18, 2013
    Living in Oregon, I often have to shoot in darker conditions due to clouds than I would like. On my cameras (G9, Gx8, Gx85) I see a great difference between 3200 and 6400 ISO when it comes to detail even in perfectly exposed images.

    As everyone's shooting style and conditions very I've put in a poll, it quite simple - what is your highest ISO on our specific primary camera that your are comfortable that you will get detail (think feather detail or other fine detail) you want in your images.
     
  2. dlentini

    dlentini Mu-43 Regular

    152
    Jul 26, 2015
    I don't really care about ISO, I have far bigger issues with my photography than to care about how much noise there is!
     
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  3. AussiePhil

    AussiePhil Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jun 1, 2014
    Canberra, ACT, Aust
    Phil
    The lowest ISO possible to get your shutter/aperture required. Feather detail also requires pixel count on the subject to collect details along with fast enough shutter to freeze the feather motion. Birds a notorious for constantly moving.
    Sorry that really doesn’t help,I suppose but it seems a good reason for M mode with auto ISO on
     
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  4. Hendrik

    Hendrik Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Feb 27, 2015
    Wayland MA
    Hendrik
    I judge ISO on a sliding scale. If I expect to crop significantly, then only base or near-base ISO will do. If I have a bright, contrasty subject on a muted, diffuse background, sufficiently close to require no crop, then 3200 is likely to be acceptable, and 6400 might just turn the trick.

    Even so, I like to keep ISO at or close to base whenever possible. This is my practice for OM-Ds and the Pen-F, as well as their predecessors in my herd, the Nikon D90, D300 and D7100. Given the difference in sensor size, this is amazing just by itself. The D70 and D600 are in leagues that bookend those already mentioned. For me, top ISO for the D70 was 640 while the D600 easily has a stop headroom above the cameras in the Great Middle.
     
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  5. walter_j

    walter_j Mu-43 Top Veteran

    698
    Sep 10, 2013
    Hagwilget, B.C., Canada
    Walter
    For astro shots with landscape, i find iso 5000 is the sweet spot for the em1mk2, as iso 6400 loses detail of mountains. Could be focusing issues too, where in mf with 5x magnification, its difficult to see when it's perfectly focused.
     
  6. Keeth101

    Keeth101 Mu-43 Veteran

    223
    Jan 5, 2018
    When I use Auto ISO, the highest I'll go is 1000. But that's only when I'm out in the field and need to take quick shots because to change even ISO could lose me the shot.
     
  7. Angus Gibbins

    Angus Gibbins Mu-43 Top Veteran Subscribing Member

    541
    Dec 6, 2015
    Brisbane, Australia
    Angus
    I'll push it to 6400 if I need to, I can always denoise a fair bit in post and I'd rather get the shot with a bit of noise than not get it at all.
     
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  8. Davidof_CR

    Davidof_CR Mu-43 Regular

    152
    Jul 16, 2017
    Pilsen
    David Chmelík
    I think the highest acceptable ISO depends on the scene. If properly exposed and focused, and if the backround is far enough, one can find even ISO 5000 for birds usable.

    Sometimes ISO 1600 is too much ...

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  9. jimr.pdx

    jimr.pdx Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

    416
    Dec 5, 2010
    ~1hr north of Portland OR
    Jim R
    I often split the difference at iso5000.
     
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  10. barry13

    barry13 Mu-43.com Editor Subscribing Member

    Mar 7, 2014
    Southern California
    Barry
    I have the auto-ISO limit at 8000, but I rarely shoot over 800 except indoors.
     
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  11. ralf-11

    ralf-11 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 16, 2017
    where is the Kodachrome II option?
     
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  12. ac12

    ac12 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 24, 2018
    Night football/soccer/lacrosse games; ISO 6400, f/4 (wide open), 1/500 sec, Nikon D7200 + 70-200/4.
    Indoor gym basketball games; ISO 6400, f/4 (wide open), 1/500 sec, Olympus EM1-mk1 + 12-100/4.
    I have pushed the D7200 up to 12800, with acceptable results.

    I am more concerned with getting the image. If there is some noise, so be it. For me, noise just limits how much I can crop into the image.
     
  13. speedy

    speedy Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Nov 27, 2015
    I don't like going over base ISO (200) personally. I shoot action in daylight, & with my collection of fast primes, I don't have to leave it (base ISO) all that often.
    If I have to, I'll go up to 1600 or 3200, to get the shot, but I'd rather not

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  14. NoTan2

    NoTan2 Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

    412
    Mar 16, 2014
    Newcastle NSW Australia
    Paul
    For me it depends. Sometimes I get unacceptable noise at 800 and other times get a good result at a much higher ISO.

    I expect that results from my poor exposure technique.
     
  15. Lupin 3rd

    Lupin 3rd Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

    439
    Aug 13, 2018
    MoCo, MD
    I'd rather have a 12800 or even 25600 iso photo of the kids than not have a photo. Noisy? Yes. Better than a smartphone pic? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
     
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  16. Giiba

    Giiba Something to someone somewhere

    Aug 19, 2016
    New Westminster, BC
    It depends, but sky is the limit if it serves it's purpose.

    Controled and careful shots I keep it under 1600, night shots 3200'ish, but shooting a moving kid in a low light indoor area and 25600 can do things no smart phone can. If you need the shutter speed and flash isn't an option, the choice is in focus grainy pictures, or blurred less noisy pictures.
     
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  17. panamike

    panamike Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jul 5, 2016
    Lincolnshire UK
    Is some of the top ISO relevance to do with do you see photogaphy as an exercise in file perfection or some sort of image capturing medium.;) 
     
  18. phigmov

    phigmov Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Apr 4, 2010
    I have older kit so high-iso is generally something I avoid but when push-comes-to-shove I'd rather get the shot than not - worst case I can always convert to B&W and go for grit (which actually suits some genres really well).
     
  19. D7k1

    D7k1 Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Nov 18, 2013
    Like where you live Mike, Oregon for many months of the year is very cloudy and dark. If you are not using 1600-3200/6400 you are not getting high enough SS for BIFs.
     
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  20. panamike

    panamike Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jul 5, 2016
    Lincolnshire UK
    Discussing max iso is in some ways a bit pointless, this would win no prizes and i could have stayed at home rather than use iso 6400, i have every respect for those that would not have taken it @ 6400 but i enjoyed my day.
    We should use all aspects of photography to give us fun, not to meet someone else's criteria

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