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This Is What I Don't Get - EM5

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by nueces snapper, Apr 29, 2012.

  1. nueces snapper

    nueces snapper Mu-43 All-Pro

    If we look around the interwebs at all the camera forums how many people with EM5 cameras? 1000? Of course I'm just guessing. A general feel for the numbers you might say.

    You gotta think Oly put ten times that many in their first boatload of product. So where are they? Is it the case that for every early adopter posting on the various forums there are nine more folks, camera in hand, who don't post? Don't even frequent camera related internet sites?

    I don't get it. :confused: 
  2. DekHog

    DekHog Mu-43 Top Veteran

    May 3, 2011
    I would think 1000 is a gross underestimate - I've noticed there's new people popping up on forums all over the place saying they've just got an E-M5. Looks like it's not only the m43 diehards who are buying them and, as you say, not everyone posts on or joins a forum.....
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  3. krugorg

    krugorg Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jul 18, 2011
    Minnesota USA
    I agree that there were probably many more than 1,000 shipped outside of Japan. I think the gear forums are used by a small percentage of photographers. Also, it probably skews this way even more, since most of the units seem to be going to local camera stores.
  4. duke

    duke Mu-43 Veteran

    Dec 4, 2010
    San Francisco Bay Area
    lol, I do think that not everyone who buys a new camera posts about it online ;) 
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  5. Jazztrumpet5

    Jazztrumpet5 Mu-43 Regular

    Apr 20, 2012
    Kansas City
    It IS frustrating. Especially if you did your due diligence and pre-ordered as soon as possible. It's head-scratching that the big dealers (Amazon, BH, etc) just haven't had ANY stock (except for the 14-42 black kit). It stinks, flat out stinks.

    The best course of action just seems to be patience, and the realization that Olympus probably isn't as adept at this type of thing as the bigger boys. It doesn't make sense... but it's just the way it is.

    Me, I'm just pretending that there are 2 or 3 little camera elves tinkering away at my own order, and since it's SO complex and the result will be SO awesome, it's taking a bit longer than I expected.

    If it helps, their names are Freddy and Hank, and the part-timer is called Teddy.
  6. nueces snapper

    nueces snapper Mu-43 All-Pro

  7. spatulaboy

    spatulaboy I'm not really here Subscribing Member

    Jul 13, 2011
    North Carolina
    Maybe they're out taking pictures.
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  8. QualityBuiltIn

    QualityBuiltIn Mu-43 Veteran

    Jan 1, 2011
    Edinburgh, Scotland

    Support your local independent dealer. Amazon and the other big boys are for the masses. They should not get the first batch of new product - early adopters should seek out specialists.

    Personally, I tend to run one generation behind because that gets me stuff with a proven track record and a lot more value for my money. I miss out on having the latest and greatest - that's my choice.
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  9. MikeB

    MikeB Mu-43 Regular

    Jun 10, 2010
    Atlanta, GA
    This statement is simply false. I got a silver 12-50 from B&H, and have had it since last Thursday. A small number of others have chimed in similarly, so I know I'm not alone. I was very early on the list, having ordered Feb 8th, as were the others who received their orders. My guess is that B&H actually received several hundred cameras in a variety of configurations, but needed a thousand to fill all the preorders. I think I've heard Amazon had 700 preorders to fill, and I bet they also got a hundred or two in the initial shipment.

    The problem is clearly that preorders were about an order of magnitude bigger than expected, and even as Olympus started to realize they needed more cameras, they were unable to get the factory to start cranking them out fast enough.

    Yes, it's frustrating, and it's not been perfectly managed by Olympus, but it's also not entirely mismanaged. They underestimated demand, and are probably doing their best to catch up quietly.
  10. songs2001

    songs2001 Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jul 8, 2011
    It's always been the case that local dealers have better stock. It's just that Internet bloggers don't make referral money sending their readers to the brick and mortar stores so they encourage pre ordering.

    B&H will make more money if a person off the street purchases a camera rather than if they have to pay a blogger a percentage, so of course they'll fulfill the in store orders at a priority.
  11. LisaO

    LisaO Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Mar 18, 2010
    New York Metro Area
    I think they are on a ship on their way here, perhaps they airfreighted a few but the majority are probably container shipped and hopefully will be arriving in the next few weeks.
  12. jgregs

    jgregs Mu-43 Regular

    Nov 21, 2010
    Southern Ontario
    Exactly, I pre ordered from my local shop in Canada and still managed to get it around the same time as B&H got theirs
  13. Jazztrumpet5

    Jazztrumpet5 Mu-43 Regular

    Apr 20, 2012
    Kansas City
    In Kansas City, we don't have any indie dealers that carry Olympus. We have a Ritz/Wolf and they are a little inept. I put in a pre-order through them after the Amazon thing went weird, even thought I really didn't want to have two pre-orders going. I do agree with you, for what it's worth!
  14. Jazztrumpet5

    Jazztrumpet5 Mu-43 Regular

    Apr 20, 2012
    Kansas City
    Pardon my hyperbole! I just am going by what I've seen in forums. I didn't know anyone had received anything besides the 14-42 Black kit.
  15. dhazeghi

    dhazeghi Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Aug 6, 2010
    San Jose, CA
    The E-M5 has the largest number of preorders of any Olympus camera in its range. In particular, it's had many more preorders than the E-P1 which was the most heavily preordered Olympus m4/3 until now. Moreover, what they really don't want is to misinterpret pent-up demand for continuous demand and overproduce. That's how they end up with stores that 3 years later still have E-P1s on their shelves.

  16. flash

    flash Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Apr 29, 2010
    1 hour from Sydney Australia.
    I don't think the west is a number one priority for Olympus. It's a big market for sure, but nothing like Asia. It used to be that the big new releases were done in America. Now they're done in Hong Kong and Singapore. The EM-5 and m4/3 in general is a huge hit in much of Asia. If demand exceeded supply there, some of the North American stock will be diverted to them.

    Your silver EM-5 kit with the 12-50 is currently being enjoyed by some nice guy in Seoul. Maybe he can send you some pictures.

  17. heedpantsnow

    heedpantsnow Mu-43 Veteran

    Jul 24, 2011
    Please don't think that all is rosey here in Asia. I'm an American living in China, and have missed several opportunities for someone to bring my camera over because my order hasn't shipped from J&R, Olympus, or Amazon yet.

    They have it here, black kits with the 12-50, available now for ~$1600 USD....ugh it's tempting but I'm trying to hold out hope on J&R:
    (1300-5%)+free flash = more money for lenses later

    I need a tattoo of that or at least a Post-It stuck to my computer monitor!!
  18. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    I cancelled my pre-order, called my local camera store, told me they had two bodies in stock, I asked them to put it on hold and rushed to pick up my camera. Way easier!
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  19. msaari

    msaari Mu-43 Rookie

    Apr 30, 2012
    Tampere, Finland
    No such option here, unfortunately - I've got the camera in preorder from my local camera store (or electronics superstore, actually). Still waiting, but Finland is a tiny market...
  20. BAKatz

    BAKatz Mu-43 Veteran

    Sep 9, 2010
    Riverdale, NY
    It could be that some of us are waiting til we actually NEED a new camera, and are waiting to see what happens in the marketplace. I have an EPL-1, with a type I lens. Is it obsolete ? Maybe Does it work ? Yeah. Can I afford to buy every new camera that hits the market ? Hell no !
    I am currently booked to take a cruise that originates in italy next year. I'm sure by then my any shortcomings the OM-D has will be corrected, twice over, and I'll upgrade.
    Or, I'll buy the EP-12
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