Thinking about leaving windows for an iMac.

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Chuck Pike, Sep 5, 2013.

  1. Chuck Pike

    Chuck Pike Mu-43 Veteran

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    Apr 3, 2010
    Charlotte, NC.
    I have a PC, which I am thinking about replacing it with an iMac. I use Lightroom, and wonder how hard is it to transfer my catalog to an iMac? If I were to continue with a PC, I will need to replace my monitor, so going with the iMac makes sense to me. I have never used an Apple computer before, so I know that there is going to be a learning curve. Also, all of my photos are on external hard drives, and I think that they should just plug into a usb port and work.

    I also have a question about color management. Is the iMac easy to adjust using a spider system? I have checked online, and my printer and scanner will work with a Mac system, and all of my photos are on external drives, so hope that will not be a problem. Not sure if my AVG anti virus will transfer to a Apple computer. One reason for my thinking about moving to a Mac is that Microsoft says that they might want to move more into hardware than software. That and the fact that every time my camera club members have to use the windows machine at the club, they talk about how much better their Apple computers are.

    Any advice will be appreciated.

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  2. fredlong

    fredlong Just this guy...

    Apr 18, 2011
    Massachusetts USA
    Fred
    First, you will need a Mac OS version of Lightroom. Adobe may offer upgrade pricing to switch. They've done this in the past with desktop publishing software, I don't know if they still do. I don't use Lightroom but it should be easy to import your catalog. I'm sure some more knowledgable will chime in.

    A Mac will be able to mount and read a Windows formatted hard drive so no problem there. If you can temporarily clear and reformat the external drives to Apple's HFS journaled option you may get better performance and safety in the (rare) event of a crash. It's not necessary and if you want to be able to use the drive with Windows just leave them as they are.

    The color gamut of the iMac's display is better than many displays on the market and can be calibrated with third party hardware. It doesn't have the color gamut of high end displays used in professional environments. The 27” is better than the smaller one.

    Your antivirus software is windows specific. There are antivirus packages available for the Mac. Both free and commercial. I can't tell much about them because in 20 years of using Macs I've never had antivirus software. I don't know if I've been lucky or if it just isn't needed. YMMV There have been some Trojans documented but they require you to participate in installing them. Stay away from porn and pirate software sites. Antivirus software isn't very effective against Trojans.

    Fred
     
  3. yaeld

    yaeld New to Mu-43

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    Aug 27, 2013
    I did the switch 2 years ago and it was fairly easy, there is a documentation on how to do that but I'm not sure I'll be able to find it. You'll have to move the Lightroom database.

    Here's a tutorial for it though it's not the one I used: How to Move Adobe Photoshop Lightroom from a PC to a Mac | Splat PhotoSplat Photo or this one Migrating Lightroom Catalog from Windows to Mac - Digital Photography Tips, Tutorials & Reviews Digital SLR Guru

    In case your USB hard drive is NTFS format, you might need this tool: https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/24481/ntfs-3g
     
  4. Dalton

    Dalton Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jan 24, 2010
    Portland, Oregon USA
    Dan Ferrall
    Another option...

    I just ordered a Dell XPS 12 Ultrabook. The Ultrabook design is one that uses Windows 8. In the case of the Dell model, you can turn the laptop into an oversized Windows 8 tablet with a touchscreen. The Dell has received excellent reviews and is considered to be quite snappy in performance. I have an Adobe Creative Cloud subscription that I will use to load Lightroom and Photoshop and have a very versatile set of options.

    Imagine a 12.5 inch tablet (yes a bit large) that will run all of my native Windows software. It weighs a little over three pounds so it is not as light or small as an Ipad or Android tablet.

    They are not a "budget" laptop. The model I ordered has the new Intel "Haswell" processor that extends battery life by quite a bit. It has eight GB of memory and an i7 processor. Here is a link to what I decided to get:
    New XPS 12 Convertible Ultrabookâ„¢ | Dell
    I will be receiving the new computer on Monday. I just got the email from Dell notifying me of it's shipment status.

    I hope to post some information on how well I like it next week.

    Dan
     
  5. Just Jim

    Just Jim Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Oct 20, 2011
    You may just want to switch to PS CC. You can bounce the license between Windows and Apple as they are now account bound rather than software bound. Super simple, and you can keep your PC around as well. It looks like they are going to make a PS/LR bundle for CC from what they recently posted on Google+, with that you can have one on your windows, and one on your Apple. It may cost a bit more, but you seem to be willing to buy an Apple, so I doubt the cost difference is that much for you.

    Personally, I prefer windows to any apple operating system. Even windows 8 is preferable UI wise.. although I did look at a few Apples after I got an 8 laptop and thought about returning it and getting an Apple laptop, the intuos5 works GREAT with windows 8. If your camera club people have Apple set ups, you may want to go check theirs out. If you hate it, you're stuck with it.
     
  6. arad85

    arad85 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Mac vs PC is like Canon vs Nikon. There is no right or wrong answer. My answer is I prefer PCs, I see no advantage to Macs, only downsides, but that is my personal opinion.

    The biggest threat these days is phishing, not viruses. You really should run something to help you spot these.

    For most Windows users (Vista and later) who run behind a router to connect to the internet, you are about as safe with a Windows PC as a Mac as it is pretty impossible to be infected without the user actually executing a malicious app and dismissing the "are you sure you want to do this" warning. The biggest threat to computer security is the user sitting in front of it these days.
     
  7. GaryAyala

    GaryAyala Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    SoCal
    I switched to Macs years ago because, with my PC, every time I upgraded software or loaded a new program I crossed my fingers wishing/praying that nothing would go wrong.

    With my Macs, I've never had a problem. The iMac is a great package, all-in-one solution. At home, I'll use the laptop in the backyard. If I feel like working on a larger monitor, I simply unplug, carry it to the back and replug, easy-peasy.

    I think you'll be very happy with the Mac.

    Gary
     
  8. DHart

    DHart Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 7, 2010
    Scottsdale, Arizona
    Don
    Chuck, you are quite likely to be in for a very wonderful experience if you get a new iMac.

    Macs are superb, elegant machines which are as trouble free as you can get. I've bought over 20 different Macs during almost three decades for personal use and for employee use in my commercial photograhy studio and have never had a problem, never had to take one in for service, never needed a "computer guy" to debloat, refresh, sanitize, or wave a magic wand over the machines. That's a remarkable track record in my view. I've also received excellent resale value when I was ready for updated models.

    At present, I use the latest top spec'd 17" MacBook Pro (I wish they still made this size MBP) and just upgraded my last 27" iMac for the most recent top spec'd 27" iMac. My wife also uses a 17" MacBook Pro and a 13" MacBook Air. We won't use anything but Macs for our imaging business and personal use. We also use a MacMini as a home theater movie server. And our wi-fis are AirPort Extremes. Thrilled as I always have been with the award winning industrial designs, the performance, and the great reliability. Apple products are well worth the money!

    I think you will find the iMac to be a very well designed, well built, trouble-free pleasure to use. The display panel is IPS technology which you will be quite impressed with. Generally I have found Mac displays to be quite accurate out of the box, but they are easy to use a Spyder or similar device for calibration.
     
  9. htc

    htc Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jan 11, 2011
    Finland
    Harry
    As a former IT-Manager (20 years) with PC and Unix environments I got tired of problems (wifi, drivers, viruses, upgrades and so on) and switched to Mac together with my family 5 years ago and I don't have to look back. Not a single problem with our 5 Macbook, 1 Mac Mini and 1 iMac or Apple wifi gadgets (Extreme, Express).
     
  10. Dalton

    Dalton Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jan 24, 2010
    Portland, Oregon USA
    Dan Ferrall
    I have worked in the IT field for over twenty years and use both Apple and Microsoft operating systems. Don't get too caught up in the hype of any one person's perspective. Both work well when properly used. It really comes down to what your style of working with a computer is and the specific software resources you require for what you are using your computer for.

    Dan
     
  11. BigdaddyT

    BigdaddyT Mu-43 Rookie

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    Aug 23, 2013
    Switch to a Mac. You'll be glad you did. It guy for many years and one out of 30 calls is for a Mac. The rest is windows and Unix. Most times the macs fixes are simply the user not knowing what to do.

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  12. arad85

    arad85 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 16, 2012
    The problem is... many people switched to Macs when Windows was less well "blessed". Do not judge Windows machines based on out of date experience.
     
  13. Chuck Pike

    Chuck Pike Mu-43 Veteran

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    Apr 3, 2010
    Charlotte, NC.
    just came back from the Apple store

    No, I didn't buy one. That is not yet, I did want some time to think about it as I will not be upgrading until Jan (money will be available then). Lots of good response both here and at Dpreview. I like the fact that I can bring my old unit in and they will transfer items from my old computer to a iMac plus you can go into the store and receive training for one year for just $100. A nice touch of customer service at the store too. I came in and found a sales rep at the front of the store, they took my name and a description, and shortly a sales person came to talk to me. After we talked, as I was leaving, they said good by using my name. This is so much different that Best Buy.

    I looked at a Dell Workstation as that is what I have now. Part of my problem is that when I bought that unit, I was able to purchase it with XP Pro installed, and my monitor isn't supported any longer. Every other item should still work.

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  14. Matero

    Matero Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jun 22, 2013
    Finland
    I'd recommend to you really to take use of this training thing. Makes your life easier even if you are familiar with computers/Windows. However nice and sleek Mac is, it's different than Windows. And to get benefit out of your system, you should know it.

    But as many fellow FM here have said already, I also prefer Mac over Windows. I use daily both, Mac at home and Windows at work. I know both system very well, but Windows needs more my attention for system than I'd like to give. Macs just works, and I have many of them in my house for the family members :)
     
  15. arad85

    arad85 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 16, 2012
    My PCs just work too.... My works PC (managed by corporate IT) on the other hand....
     
  16. Matero

    Matero Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jun 22, 2013
    Finland
    Yep, also true
     
  17. AceAceBaby

    AceAceBaby Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jan 21, 2013
    True story; my wife had a Dell desktop, and it had some cooling problems. She sent it to Dell for warranty repair, they sent it back. She said the fans were going full tilt all the time since the repair.

    We opened it up and found they had put the plastic cover from the CPU packaging between the CPU and cooler.

    That Dell is still alive in another form as our HTPC with Windows 8 (minus the plastic, and with some good thermal paste), but I'd never buy from those cowboys myself.
     
  18. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    Northumberland
    Don't do it!
    Buy an iMac, use them both.

    No need for replacing, no need for "leaving".
     
  19. RajC

    RajC Mu-43 Regular

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    Jul 6, 2013
    Don't forget any smartphone considerations.

    I've used a Mac for years because of the simplicity.
    However it's a pain to try to use a non-iPhone on a Mac. It can be done to some extent.
    I'm considering switching from Mac to PC on my next upgrade.

    Regarding in-store training: ask questions before you buy this.
    My local Apple store offers free training on various features/programs.
    However it's done in the middle of the store, with everyone huddled around one monitor. It's free and worth the price.

    I am not a fan of the Apple experience (arrogance). I bought my last computer at Best Buy and iPhone at Target.
     
  20. Jesse_S

    Jesse_S Mu-43 Regular

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    Jan 7, 2013
    Seattle, WA
    I don't see how it's any different than a PC? Most everything is synced through the "cloud" these days. Email, calendars, even photos are all sync'd and can be accessed from the computer or the phone.

    I have an Android phone and a Mac and the only time I have to even hook it up to the computer is to add music and that's actually easier than using iTunes (for me) since the phone just shows up on the desktop as a USB drive. And to clarify, I don't even like Android very much, it's just what I currently have.

    Back to Chuck Pikes original post...for the external harddrives, while you can add drivers to Macs to read NTFS (Windows only) drives, the safer (but more time intensive) option is to copy the files off and reformat the drives to the standard Mac format. The NTFS drivers have always been a bit flaky and are not officially supported. Plus, then you can use Time Machine for dead simple backups, which I think is one of the big pluses that OS X brings to the table these days.