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Thinking about a Helios 44

Discussion in 'Adapted Lenses' started by dixeyk, Jan 29, 2012.

  1. dixeyk

    dixeyk Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 9, 2010
    I was thinking about picking up a Helios 44 again (I really liked my last one and regret selling it). I noticed that I can get them in m39 and m42 versions. Wouldn't the distance to the imager be way off in the m39 version? It wasn't an RF lens. Initially I thought m39 would be great (never liked the fact that m42 adapters are so large) but I'm thinking the m39 Helios 44 wouldn't work with the same adapter I use for my Jupiter 8...right?
     
  2. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

    Jul 18, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    I'd like to know as well. If I could get this lens in M39 and use it with a shorter register, then I would definitely want that. :)
     
  3. dixeyk

    dixeyk Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 9, 2010
    Amen to that
     
  4. I was sent an M39 version of the helios 44 which was advertised as an M42. Long story short, the seller partially reimbursed me which left me with a fairly scruffy looking early M39 version of this lens. As near as I can tell, in converting the lens from M42 to M39 they have just tacked on an extra section to the lens, so the lens will project just as far forwards on an m4/3 body as the M42 version would. I haven't actually used the lens since I don't have an M39 adapter.
     
  5. geoffox23

    geoffox23 Mu-43 Rookie

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    Feb 5, 2010
    Brisbane. Australia
    The Helios-44 is an SLR lens, not made for rangefinder. The M39 refers to Zenit SLR.

    You can use a M39-M42 adapter ring, which screws onto a M39 lens and then the lens with ring screws into a M42 adapter. For the lens to focus at infinity, wide open, the adapter may need to be shortened by 0.3mm. (45.5mm to 45.2mm register distance)

    See Google Translate for more.
     
  6. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

    Jul 18, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    I have an M39 adapter. You should send the lens to me. ;)

    I'll even send you pictures taken with it, so you will know the lens is being put to good use. xD
     
  7. dixeyk

    dixeyk Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 9, 2010
    Okay, so m42 it is...dang. Well, the Helios 44 is worth the giant adapter I suppose.
     
  8. geoffox23

    geoffox23 Mu-43 Rookie

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    Feb 5, 2010
    Brisbane. Australia
    @Nic

    sent you a PM
     
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  9. geoffox23

    geoffox23 Mu-43 Rookie

    20
    Feb 5, 2010
    Brisbane. Australia
    @ Kevin

    Well worth the trouble.

    And there are so many varieties, too. It's easy to end up with a family :)
     
  10. dixeyk

    dixeyk Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 9, 2010
    Yeah, my old 44M produced some of my favorite images ever...not too sure what may me decide to sell it in the first place.
     
  11. punkman

    punkman Mu-43 Regular

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    Dec 30, 2011
    Europe
    Heh, I just bought a Helios 44 for M42 mount then I saw this thread. Can't wait to try it out now.
     
  12. dixeyk

    dixeyk Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 9, 2010
    It's a cool lens. Take a look at the Adapted Lens Sample Image Archive to see some examples of why it is well loved.
     
  13. Brian S

    Brian S Mu-43 Top Veteran

    714
    Apr 11, 2009
    There are at least three 39mm screw mount systems used by the Soviets for their cameras: 39mm rangefinder mount; 1/2 frame Chaika, and 39mm SLR mount. All have the same threads, but different registers. The Leica mount 39mm to u43 mount will not work with the SLR lenses, comes fairly close with the Chaika mount. Best to buy the 42mm Helios 44, or look for an adapter specifally made for the SLR 39mm mount lenses.
     
  14. dixeyk

    dixeyk Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 9, 2010
    I figured as much...I just ordered a Helios 44m in m42 mount.
     
  15. Nordentro

    Nordentro Mu-43 Regular

    46
    Oct 6, 2010
    Norway
    You can't go much wrong with the Helios 44. Buy the m42 version for less hasle :smile: If u're looking for something smaler in size, try the jupiter 8 -m39 lens. It really fits any m43 camera very well
     
  16. With many thanks to Geoff who had a spare adapter ring, my oddball M39 (the Zenit SLR M39 mount) Helios 44 is now a very usable M42. As can be seen below it is quite scruffy looking with a sizable ding in the front filter thread. Amongst the myriad versions of this lens, this particular one is the "Zebra" model with an 8-blade diaphragm. The setup below sets some kind of record for me with three adapters; m4/3-4/3, 4/3-M42, and M42-M39!

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    Test shot @ f2.8. It seems to be sharper at longer focus distances. This was taken at MFD.

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  17. dixeyk

    dixeyk Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 9, 2010
    I have a Jupiter 8 and I have a hard time with that lens. The lack of click stops is really hard to deal with (for me). Also, the close focus distance feels like it's about ten feet. I like the images it can produce but IMHO it's not a particularly fun lens to shoot with. I'm finding it an acquired taste.
     
  18. Nordentro

    Nordentro Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 6, 2010
    Norway
    I think they are quite nice:smile: The lack of click stops make them good for video as well. Do you have the black or the older silver version?
     
  19. dixeyk

    dixeyk Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 9, 2010
    I have a black one. I used to have a silver one but I sold it. I hear the silvers ones are a bit better but I haven't noticed any difference in IQ between them. I just received my Industar 61L/D. Can't wait to try it out.
     
  20. Declan97

    Declan97 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Feb 3, 2012
    Padang, Indonesia
    Never had russian lens, consider to tried but since there is to many of them,so now I know where to start

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