As of later today, I will officially have the O17 2.8, the O17 1.8, the O25 1.8, the O45 1.8, and the O60 2.8 No targets, just everyday shooting. The real fight will be the new 17 vs. old 17 and the new 17 vs. the 25. It's hard to get any clear picture of the O17 1.8 from the webreviews/forums/etc. so I'll just have to try it out myself. I hope I can at least sell one of these (O17 vs O25, 1.8) at some point. In case you're curious, the P14 2.5 and the Coolpix A take care of the low end.