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The next lens to demand: long prime!

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by Promit, Jul 8, 2011.

  1. Promit

    Promit Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 6, 2011
    Baltimore, MD
    Promit Roy
    With the Oly 45 now announced and getting ready, I say that the next lens we need to get out of PanOly is a long fast prime, somewhere in the 85-135 range. Personally I'm thinking that a 85mm f/2 or an 85mm f/3.5 macro would be a killer addition to the system. :2thumbs:
     
  2. zettapixel

    zettapixel Mu-43 Veteran

    470
    Aug 12, 2010
    NY
    I agree, although a lot of people would probably appreciate a faster normal zoom, as long as it's reasonably small.
     
  3. Y-V-E-S

    Y-V-E-S Mu-43 Veteran

    207
    May 20, 2011
    San Jose, CA
    Yves Gajardo
    A 135mm f/2.8 would be sick!
     
  4. DekHog

    DekHog Mu-43 Top Veteran

    579
    May 3, 2011
    Scotland
    If we are getting the promised PEN Pro, lenses like that could well be on the cards. I find it all quite exciting, although they'll never please everyone...
     
  5. Linh

    Linh Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 14, 2009
    Maryland, US
    I want something that can replace my 135L. Or come very close. With OIS. without macro.

    though, tbh, I don't think this should be our next demand. We need the 35-100/2 .. but not at $2500 =)
     
  6. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    I'm using a 100mm OM 2.8. Would love that with AF.
     
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  7. ssgreenley

    ssgreenley Mu-43 Top Veteran

    509
    May 12, 2011
    Agreed.
     
  8. RobWatson

    RobWatson Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Demands

    So long as we are demanding I demand adapters that enable legacy AF. I might actually pay $400 for that.
     
  9. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    Northumberland
    I completely disagree.

    14-50-ish F2.8-ish quality zoom would be spiffing.
     
  10. pxpaulx

    pxpaulx Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 19, 2010
    Midwest
    Paul
    I'd buy a meager 12-35mmm F2.8 in a heartbeat. For a telephoto, how about a 150mm f2.8 (or 2.5), or a 300mm f4?
     
  11. leuallen

    leuallen Mu-43 Regular

    27
    Mar 26, 2010
    Mackinaw, Il
    I disagree. The Panny zooms are equal to or out perform most of the legacy longer lenses I have (Nikon, OM, Minolta, and Pentax. 80 to 300 range). If course they are not as fast so if you need speed use a legacy lens. No AF but at the longer focal lengths you generally need a tripod anyway so manual focusing is not that difficult.

    I really can't think of a lens, that I want, that is missing in the Panny lineup. Well except maybe for a Panny version of a 45 1.4-1.8 that is stabilized.

    Larry
     
  12. Grinch

    Grinch Mu-43 Top Veteran

    813
    Jan 9, 2011
    Canada
    How about it just being a fast quality lens without leica brAnding so the price is reasonable and reflects the quality not the brand!?! I'd like to see a 60mm or 85mm f1.9 or faster. Although I am beginning to realize that I can buy alot of legacy glass for less than what you shell out for one autofocus...wondering if it's really worth it. I'm just not seeing the value in the photos I'm getting for all the extra cash.
     
  13. RobWatson

    RobWatson Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    I'm just sitting here looking at a modest collection of legacy glass that I can't fully utilize for the lack of an adapter to enable the features. No way I could affort to replace even a significant fraction of it (if the option is even there) with native glass.
     
  14. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

    Jul 18, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    Dude, the fact that you have all that glass and can now use it in a digital format is something to rejoice and be proud of! All these Auto features on native lenses are not anything spectacular, like good glass is.
     
  15. dabbler

    dabbler Mu-43 Regular

    131
    Feb 5, 2011
    I think that the basic needs are now covered pretty well; instead of long primes etc. that may never be huge sellers I hope to see a year or two of consolidation during which O&P compete against each other on existing or similar focal lengths. Hopefully this should not only ensure that truly excellent lenses are available at each of these focal lengths but also drive down prices.

    To me, if m43 is going to dominate the mirrorless sector then it will do so not on the basis of body size, nor really on lens size, but on the cheaper lens pricing enabled by requiring less glass than its competitors. So much of the workings of all mirrorless cameras, irrespective of manufacturer, is subject to Moore's Law, with the big exception being the glass. The pricing of lenses is therefore likely to become an ever more important factor in choosing a system.

    The curious way in which O&P aren't in direct competition for any of their lenses within the standard focal lengths (with the half-exception of the kit zoom) makes me suspect that the prices of primes might be higher than they could be, and that this might be hindering the success of the m43 format. So I'd like to see some competition on or around the focal lengths of the existing primes in order to lower prices and hopefully consolidate the user base. Once that's done I hope they will turn their attention to more specialist lenses!

    Don't get me wrong; I'm very glad that in m43's first couple of years O&P have established a wide range of focal lengths, and I'm very glad that, with both having a massive stake in the success or failure of the format, they seem to have worked together on a lens strategy to some extent. I'm not even angry about the current pricing of lenses, as early adopters in every field of technology pay a premium. I simply think that in several ways m43 seems to be moving towards maturity as a format, and that greater competition between the companies and the consequent lowering of lens prices, would benefit existing users, attract new users, and be another sign that m43 is not an experimental format but here to stay.
     
  16. Narnian

    Narnian Nobody in particular ...

    Aug 6, 2010
    Midlothian, VA
    Richard Elliott
    I agree. I have the Pentax-M 100/2.8 and it is one of my favorite adapted lenses.
     
  17. RobWatson

    RobWatson Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Well, mostly it is for the wife that I plead. She will not MF and is always complaining about 'that crappy camera' a.k.a. E-P1 because of the poor performance indoors with no flash. That, and for the children. It's not about me ... think of my poor long suffering wife and those poor children. If only there were an adapter to save us!

    On second thought forget about the adapter otherwise my wife will hog the camera and leave me with legacy glass and no camera.
     
  18. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    Northumberland
    That is so wierd ... considering that for indoor stuff I'm most likely to pick up this e-P1 with 17mmF2.8 lens because unlike my other cameras the Auto-ISO is more than happy to jump right up to ISO 1600 (with ISO 3200 bracketed) at the slightest sign of gloom. Something about how it operates makes indoor snapshots really easy and mostly keepers.
    Rob your and your wife's experience must be the oppisite of mine, unless you are simply talking about the lack of pop-up flash ... ?
     
  19. blue

    blue Mu-43 Veteran

    280
    Jun 1, 2010
    UK
    135 isn't long

    I'd like a decent wildlife lens, eg 300mm 2.8

    Olympus - Specifications

    should be smaller in micro four thirds size and fitting
     
  20. RobWatson

    RobWatson Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    If you knew my wife ...

    I'm too cheap to spring for a flash so I just wander around with my 1,000,000 candle power search lamp and "Say melted cheese"!

    Seriously, usually I've got the camera in some funky setting (or an adapted lens-or both) and the wife just needs to switch over to iAuto (and slap on the 17/F2.8) and everything will be alright. I'd much rather she just used her own P&S camera and leave the E-P1 alone.