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The new Olympus AF is rock solid!

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by Jonathan F/2, Nov 1, 2011.

  1. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    I brought my E-PM1 to take photos of my daughter for Halloween and I have to say it works admirably! In complete darkness, the camera was able to lock focus quickly. Even during times when I accidentally blocked the AF illumination light, it would still lock on. It's quite impressive and I'm positive my E-PL2 would have no such luck focusing in those conditions!

    Also the new clip-on flash is very good. It's much better than using a pop-up flash and has very good light output. In fact, if someone told me my shots were taken with a DSLR and a proper flash setup, I'd probably believe them. :smile:

    Kudos to Olympus!
     
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  2. McDark

    McDark Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 26, 2011
    Russia
    Jonathan, which lens were you using?
     
  3. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    It probably helped I was using the 12mm f/2. :smile:
     
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  4. DDBazooka

    DDBazooka Mu-43 Veteran

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    Sep 3, 2011
    I was using a 20/1.7 in lowish light (wasn't even close to being completely dark) and had no such luck :( 
     
  5. Canonista

    Canonista Mu-43 Top Veteran

    574
    Sep 3, 2011
    L.A.
    The 20mm loves to AF hunt, even on my E-P3. If I didn't have the fast focusing 12mm and 45mm, I would already have traded-in my 20mm for the new PL 25mm.
     
  6. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    I used the 25/1.4 last night on a an EPL2, and only missed focus once (at night during trick-or-treating), but having owned an EP3 in the past, I would love to have the PL25 on one of the new Pens. Not just sure focusing, but fast, too!
     
  7. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    The 12mm and E-PM1 in low light is very quick. I felt like I was hitting DSLR speeds. I was able to shoot my daughter's movement quite easily. I'm sure it has a lot to do with the glass, but it's good to know Olympus has matched Panasonic this time around. Though to be honest, the E-PM1 and E-PL2 are different enough in my mind, it's worth keeping both. I'm still gravitating to my E-PL2 for daytime shooting. There's a little more bite to the images in good light. I find the E-PM1 makes a very good all-around camera, while the E-PL2 is better for portraiture and slower shooting conditions.
     
  8. DekHog

    DekHog Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    May 3, 2011
    Scotland
    A bit OT, but isn't it well overdue that Panasonic release a Mk II version of the 20mm? I love the image quality, but the focus speed and audible noise are a bit, 'Oh dear.'
     
  9. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    I think Panasonic would prefer you upgrade to the 25 1.4! I wouldn't mind a 17mm f/2 or faster though!
     
  10. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    Not until I sell mine please!!!!

    I agree, but I think one of these vendors have to make a faster 17mm. I'm not a 35mm shooter, but could you imagine our resident street shooters with a 17/2 with Oly's snap focus and fast AF? The streetshooters might even have to give up their X100s!
     
  11. stratokaster

    stratokaster Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 4, 2011
    Dublin, IE
    Pavel
    The 20mm pancake hunts a lot on my E-P3, but it never hunts on my GH2.
     
  12. Canonista

    Canonista Mu-43 Top Veteran

    574
    Sep 3, 2011
    L.A.
    Interesting. I thought Oly and Panny shared lens firmware. I hope a future update will cure the problem.
     
  13. McDark

    McDark Mu-43 Regular

    82
    Oct 26, 2011
    Russia
    Jonathan, have you tried 45/1.8 in same conditions? How would you rate its focusing on E-PM1?

    Stratokaster, 20mm is a rather strange lens, for me it works tad better with E-PL1 than with GF1...
     
  14. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    I've used the 45 1.8 on the E-PM1 in dusk light conditions and it works pretty well, though I haven't tried it in complete darkness. Overall though I'd say it's fairly quick. I usually test my lenses with the E-PL2, if it's fast enough on that body, then it's really quick on the E-PM1! :wink:

    In my opinion though, mirrorless in general still doesn't match DSLR speeds for focus tracking. I have to adjust my timing with my m43 bodies to get shots. With My D3/D700 it almost feels like I'm cheating because I can just shoot away, but the trade off is size!
     
  15. McDark

    McDark Mu-43 Regular

    82
    Oct 26, 2011
    Russia
    Well, I'd say it depends. I have been using several generations of Pentax DSLR (except for the latest though) and my conclusion is E-PL1 has notably faster and even more precise focusing with comparable lens...
     
  16. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    I meant to say continuous focus tracking. On single AF, my mirrorless cameras lock-on quickly. It's just when stuff starts moving in and out of the focal plane, I think DSLRs work better.
     
  17. M4/3

    M4/3 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Sep 24, 2011
    Any idea why? A weaker AA filter on the E-PL2? Do you have noise reduction and the noise filter turned off on the E-PM1? The cnet review of the E-P3 was critical of that cameras overly aggressive default noise reduction. Perhaps the E-PM1's default is too aggressive too?
     
  18. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    I have both my cameras set to low in NR. On the E-PL2, to my eyes look just right with a good balance of sharpness without being overly noisy. On the E-PM1 it looks a tad softer at low. I tried turning NR off on the E-PM1, but it just looked too noisy for my taste. It could either be Olympus started applying slightly stronger NR processing or it could be a slightly stronger AA filter. I'm not sure. Though it's enough where I couldn't pick a clear winner.

    If straight image quality is your thing on a budget, I'd go for the E-PL2. In fact if I was shooting adapted lenses, I probably would stick with the E-PL2. The E-PL2 IBIS is also solid. My E-PM1 IBIS hasn't been as consistent. Saying all that though, the newer Pens offer quite a bit of handling improvement even on the mini. My E-PM1 has excellent AWB, responsive/fast AF and very good build quality.
     
  19. Jorge Ledesma

    Jorge Ledesma Mu-43 Veteran

    200
    Aug 27, 2011
    Miami
    Same here on the 17mm f/2 with blazing speed in AF.
     
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