The new HTC Incredible

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Goodbye iPhone 3GS, hello Incredible.

Just picked up the new phone today, and I am super impressed. The thing that sold me right away was the better browsing experience. The automatic text flow is terrific, and if there is any problem with the Android implementation of multitasking (as Steve tried to say at the iPhone OS 4 event), I sure can't find it. Listening to Pandora and browsing the forum right now.

I thought Android was a bit rough around the edges, but HTC seems to have taken care of that in their implementation. Engadget has a very favorable review.

Engadget said:
To say that this UI is competitive with something like iPhone OS 3.1 (or 4 for that matter), or Palm's webOS is an understatement; in many ways it's superior to what Apple and Palm are offering.
Anyway, if anyone is thinking about picking up this phone, my early impression is :2thumbs:.


[Edit: Please don't take any of this as a disrespect for the iPhone. The 3GS has been out for a year and will soon be replaced, so it's not really an apples-to-apples comparison. I'm just sharing my enjoyment of the Incredible!]
 

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I own an HTC Touch Dual, always liked it. I like the Windows based platform especially. I look forward to reviewing this product you have profiled here tonight.

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I have a HTC Touch Pro 2 also known as the Rhodium CDMA and they have been working on porting Android to it for months. When dual booting to Android from WinMo 6.5, everything works but GPS, bluetooth and the music speaker.

Port Status - Android on HTC
 

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Some of the reasons (so far) I love the Incredible:

  • The web browsing experience is better (for me). Text reflow makes all the difference when trying to read a forum like this one in portrait mode.
  • Multitasking just works. If there's a problem with the Android implementation of multitasking, I haven't found it. I've used a lot of apps, and Android seems to manage the memory just fine without me telling it which ones to kill
  • YouTube videos play at high quality - I can actually see the ball while watching a French open tennis match from YouTube
  • Flash Lite works nicely as far as I can tell. I can finally use the regular Google Analytics site on my phone.
  • I have it set so Google Voice transcribes all my voicemails to text with an option to listen to them
  • My podcasts all automatically refresh subscriptions via Wifi - no more dependence on syncing to a computer for subscribing to or updating podcasts
  • Screens can be used any way I like with combinations of widgets and icons - a much better experience (for me) than page after page of just icons
  • Pinching gesture while on the home screen pulls up a mini view of all seven available screens > Tap to go to any screen (like Exposé on the Mac)
  • I can install tethering software without hacking my phone or paying an extra fee to my carrier (although this may violate their TOS, and I could get a heavy bill if they notice, so I'm not going that route at this time though many people are)
  • Voice recognition system wide, so you can dictate emails, text messages, etc
  • Built-in, free turn-by-turn GPS. Can just hold down the search key for a couple seconds, then voice recognition kicks in. Say "Navigate to [address or place]", and the droid starts reading you directions
  • Highlighting text or an address gives options to copy/paste or share via Twitter, Mail, Text message, Facebook, etc.
  • The display is amazing. The iPhone display looks milky (blacks aren't as black) and low res by comparison.
  • Wirelessly syncing music to iTunes using TuneSync works great.
There are some issues with the Incredible. The screen is less viewable in sunlight (tried side-by-side with iPhone today). It's much to pinpoint a place in text to put the cursor than it is with the iPhone. It's a bit harder to hit the right keys in the keyboard in portrait mode, although I've started using Swype for text entry.

Based on my experience, the Incredible is a little more complicated and less "smooth" in action than the iPhone, but it's more fun and, despite fewer available apps, does more of what I want.
 

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Yeah, I'm looking to jump to Android as well. Though, the iPhone "4G" certainly looks appealing to me, finally. But I refuse to go to AT&T.

So I'll be looking at the HTC EVO. Hopefully Sprint won't force me to buy into the 4G plan, or better yet, it's the same price as the 3G plan =)
 

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Feels good to be on OS that doesn't lock down the application ecosystem. At the recent iPhone 4.0 event, GDGT's Ryan Block asked Steve Jobs whether Apple will enable unsigned applications like Android and Palm OS. Steve: "There’s a porn store for Android… you can download it, your kids can download it. That’s a place we don’t want to go, so we’re not going to."

That "family values" excuse is obviously nonsense considering that the iPhone has a browser which is perfectly good for porn. There is no shortage of porn on an iPhone, but you just can't have unsigned apps. Or Google Voice. Or Flash. Or PDANet (software that lets you tether your phone to your laptop). Or Bittorent control. Or swear words. Or political satire. Or criticism of Steve.

Just Google "Apple rejects" and you'll see what I mean.
 

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I certainly don't agree with how Apple is doing what they're doing, but it's business. They want total control, and to an extent, I understand. But 95% of the people don't care and buy what's "cool." It will be interesting how the huge influx of Android phones over the next couple of years will effect the iPhone market, and if Apple will release more models. I almost see them putting out more mobile devices, and dwindling their computer choices to either home or pro options, that's it.

It's a shame Palm couldn't make much ground. I will be letting go of my Pre, but I have some hope that HP will make a decent WebOS tablet. For me, the negatives of WebOS have little consequence to me, other than speed, which is easily fixed w/ a snapdragon processor.
 

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Very strong move on HP's part to double down on WebOS. I don't know if it's the right move or not, but it's definitely courageous. They easily could have gone with Android like HTC is doing.
 

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Feels good to be on OS that doesn't lock down the application ecosystem. At the recent iPhone 4.0 event, GDGT's Ryan Block asked Steve Jobs whether Apple will enable unsigned applications like Android and Palm OS. Steve: "There’s a porn store for Android… you can download it, your kids can download it. That’s a place we don’t want to go, so we’re not going to."

That "family values" excuse is obviously nonsense considering that the iPhone has a browser which is perfectly good for porn. There is no shortage of porn on an iPhone, but you just can't have unsigned apps. Or Google Voice. Or Flash. Or PDANet (software that lets you tether your phone to your laptop). Or Bittorent control. Or swear words. Or political satire. Or criticism of Steve.

Just Google "Apple rejects" and you'll see what I mean.

Have an opinion much on this? :cool:

What I find so funny, is for a kernel(OS X) which is based off of freeBSD(free GNU), he doesn't like open applications onto the iphone unless apple approves of them. I really like Palm and Android because they allow open applications.

And I agree, its hard to keep any device family friendly. But I don't think thats a valid excuse.
 

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Steve: "There’s a porn store for Android… you can download it, your kids can download it. That’s a place we don’t want to go.


I agree with steve in this retrospect that for those who want to download porn aren't worthy to own an iPhone.

I believe women hold a greater value than the world views and that's what 98% of what porn is- a degredation of women. Don't get me wrong either, I'm not a feminist. Others probably think differently to this, if I'm the only one- maybe I'm strange:)
 

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Icon, regardless of whether you think porn is good or bad, Apple is doing nothing to keep porn off the iPhone. They put an internet browser on there, and no better access to porn exists than an internet browser.

Steve's comment about porn is just a flimsy excuse for locking down their products to limit apps for any reason Apple sees fit, most of which is directly related to stifling market competition.

There are a some good reasons to lock down the app ecosystem: making sure the apps work well, don't create instability, don't have malware, etc. As an experienced computer user, I'd rather pick my apps as I see fit and deal with those issues using my own judgment.
 
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