The lens I want

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by WT21, Nov 3, 2011.

  1. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    I'm not usually big into "wish list" lenses and cameras. Everyone has their own list, and I usually just go with what's available.

    But I keep coming back to this concept.

    I have the 14mm pancake, and really love it. Enough that I sold my 20mm, now that I have the PL25 -- the PL25 for normal, the 14 for walk-around.

    But I was on two trips recently where I could have used wider than the 14. On one, I had the kit lens with the FE attachment, and that was good, but cumbersome and the kit isn't very wide aperture, so outdoors only.

    On the other I had the 14, which could go inside and out, but sometimes I wanted wider and sometimes a bit more reach.

    The 9-18 is nice but slow (aperture). The 7-14 doesn't quite go long enough, and I'd like faster than 4.0 with the current generation of sensors.

    What I'd like (in a make believe world) is a lens in the 7 or 9-18 range that starts fisheye on the widest end, but loses that as you zoom in. Never going to happen, but instead of that unreachable dream, what I'd like is a faster 9-18, f/2.5 (like the 14mm).

    If I had that lens, then I'd only need 3 (maybe 4) lenses: a 9-18/2.5, PL25, a good 50mm (preferably a fast 50mm macro!). The 9-18 would be the everyday/travel lens, the 25 for special shots and the 50 for macro and portrait. (I'd also keep my 14-150 and a nice fast 100 couldn't hurt)

    To sleep, to dream...
     
  2. drizek

    drizek Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 5, 2011
    You mean, like a 12-60mm f2.8-4.0 lens?
     
  3. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    No, not really. I mean like something start at 7 or 9, with a constant aperture of 2.5.

    I can't expect a lens to go from 8-60 and be any good, but the 9-18 and 7-14 has shown that wide 2X range i quite do-able. I just want that lens, but faster.
     
  4. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

    Jul 18, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    Naw, I think he means the Zuiko 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5. ;)
     
  5. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    Closer! A little wider and a little faster, but if that 11-22 lens came in a native m43 mount, I would certainly try it! I still want like 2.5, though, for indoor shooting.
     
  6. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

    Jul 18, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    For something that wide and that fast, it would have to be a prime. CCTV lenses are the only ones I've seen that can retain such a wide angle at such a fast aperture, but they are very low resolution. I can't see that in a high resolving photo lens. Mind you, those CCTV lenses cme a lot faster than f/2.5, so maybe that's not too much to ask for a high resolving lens as long as it's a prime and not a zoom.
     
  7. shnitz

    shnitz Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 25, 2011
    Austin, TX
  8. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    Tokina makes an 11-16 2.8 constant aperture. That's closer!
     
  9. krugorg

    krugorg Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jul 18, 2011
    Minnesota USA
    Tangent warning! :eek: Or, maybe just a newb-rrific question:

    It seems like the shallow depth of field and wide angle (at least what I think of for typical wide shots, like landscapes or city architecture) are a bit mutually exclusive? How does infinity focus work with a fast wide lens (e.g on the Oly 12)? :confused: I am probably missing something basic here?

    I have never done landscapes before, but starting to get interested now.
     
  10. DekHog

    DekHog Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    May 3, 2011
    Scotland
    Personally I'm not bothered about the wide angle you wish for, but a fast 100mm would really rock... I doubt we'll ever get that either though.... :smile:
     
  11. Djarum

    Djarum Super Moderator

    Dec 15, 2009
    Huntsville, AL, USA
    Jason
    All I want for Christmas is my :43: lens, my :43: lens.....
     
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  12. apicius9

    apicius9 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Feb 1, 2010
    Honolulu, Hawaii
    If my Planar 85/1.4 would autofocus, I'd be perfectly happy. Not that big on WAs.

    Stefan
     
  13. Tokina makes that odd 10-17mm fisheye zoom for APS which is fisheye at 10mm and like a badly barrel-distorted rectinlinear lens at 17mm.
     
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  14. John M Flores

    John M Flores Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 7, 2011
    Somerville, NJ
    I have the Pentax version of that lens. It's interesting, but by far my least-used lens. I just can't wrap my head around going that wide. But playing with it once in a while is fun:

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    Nate in the grass by john m flores, on Flickr

    and once in a while just right
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    Staircase, Palazzo Barberini by john m flores, on Flickr

    I've played with it on M43, but have nothing worth showing....that's how challenging it is to use.
     
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  15. drizek

    drizek Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 5, 2011
    That staircase is perfect.
     
  16. Bokeaji

    Bokeaji Gonzo's Dad O.*

    Aug 6, 2011
    Austin, TX
    i still want a 17/1.4, built like the 12, with distance scale
     
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  17. nickthetasmaniac

    nickthetasmaniac Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 11, 2011
    Me too, but I'd like it made by Cosina Voigtlander, and I'd like it f1 :smile:
     
  18. Very good to hear from someone who has used this lens as they seem to be quite rare. I love ultra wide-angle lenses but I've never been so sure about getting a fisheye. That staircase shot is fantastic, BTW.
     
  19. dhazeghi

    dhazeghi Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 6, 2010
    San Jose, CA
    Dara
    I'll vote for the fast 100. There are several fisheye options for micro. There are no fast teles past 45mm.

    DH
     
  20. drizek

    drizek Mu-43 Veteran

    492
    Aug 5, 2011
    Not even any standard 4/3s ones, other than the ridiculous 150mm/300mm Zuiko primes.