The E-M1 just keeps on giving

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by wjiang, Feb 3, 2015.

  1. wjiang

    wjiang Mu-43 Hall of Famer

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  2. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

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    Maybe, just maybe, Olympus is taking heed of what people are asking for and realising how the likes of Fiji retain their customers because they don't just introduce a new model camera and then move on to the next model, abandoning the earlier models and owners.
     
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  3. Ross the fiddler

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    I hope so, but then I haven't done much that requires that mode of focussing really. Maybe it might be the way to go at capturing the bride walking up the aisle (as I escort her & taken by someone else).
     
  4. LowriderS10

    LowriderS10 Monkey with a camera.

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    Now...if they could go back to the E-M5 and give us MySets on the dial and maybe a 1/8000s shutter speed, I would send Oly a basket of muffins!
     
  5. maritan

    maritan Mu-43 Veteran

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    Saw this earlier. I'm cautiously optimistic only because this is from a rumour site. Can't wait for the 5th.

    This will definitely help when I have to take pictures of dogs herding. I have already been able to get quite a few good pictures, but better tracking C-AF is very welcome.

    I switched from the Fuji X100 to Oly E-M1 and was a little apprehensive because I kept hearing/ reading Oly's lack of firmware update support. I'm pleasantly surprised so far.
     
  6. gryphon1911

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    Any enhancement to the C-AF, getting it closer to DSLR levels just gets me closer to dropping my DSLRs as a primary tool and making the m43 gear into the prime position.
     
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  7. TRCPhoto

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    Agreed!
     
  8. gryphon1911

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    Seriously. If not this next iteration of EM1/GH4, then the one after that...if they get the tracking down....there is little keeping me with Nikon, other than my unreasonable love for the Nikon Df. I could have that with a few primes and then run the gambit of everything else with the Olympus stuff.

    I could see the D700/D300 getting sold off to fund the higher end zooms like the 12-40 and 40-150 f/2.8 and I'd be a happy boy. I'm keen to wait though, as I am still finding new and exciting ways to leverage the m43 gear I have.

    It's getting there!
     
  9. Ccasey

    Ccasey Mu-43 Regular

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    Fingers crossed, though I think we still have a long way to go to get to DSLR C-AF level. But I'll take any improvement I can get.
     
  10. evilnim

    evilnim Mu-43 Veteran

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    Sounds promising. What do you reckon the odds are of the electronic shutter capability being introduced in a firmware update to the EM-1, as it is a feature in the EM-5 mk2? Now THAT would be ace as well.


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  11. tomO2013

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    I'm more interested in the EM1 getting better accuracy - additional fps is just icing on the cake.

    *Edit* silent shutter would be amazing but in other cameras comes with dynamic range compromises.
     
  12. wjiang

    wjiang Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    They suggested improved performance as well as speed.
     
  13. faithblinded

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    From the press release:
    "The newest firmware upgrade features an enhanced algorithm for phase-detection, raising the former C-AF sequential shooting speed of 6.5 fps to a maximum high speed of 9 fps. With this update, AF tracking performance is improved when using continuous-AF (C-AF) Sequential H mode. When set to C-AF, 37-point on-chip phase detection AF is used. Now, when capturing a quick-moving subject, photographers never need to miss the shot. A maximum 10 fps remains available when set to single-AF (S-AF) Sequential H mode."

    This suggests that they have refined the PDAF to the point that they no longer need to confirm the lock with CDAF after the initial PDAF focus movement(which seems to be the current initial behavior in C-AF). Relying completely on CDAF could mean a quicker initial focus lock. I hope this means they will give us access to the same focus area that shows up when you connect a 4/3 lens that uses PDAF only. Center 9 works but it would be cool to be able to select the entire PDAF array with native m4/3 lenses. Here's hoping high FPS with C-AF enables that behavior.

    As to the accuracy comments, upping the frame rate should improve your accuracy, since you will keep the subject on target and in frame more easily. The suggestion that PDAF is in total control for high fps C-AF certainly leads me to believe they've made the focus system more accurate. That it requires a new algorithm should also be seen as a good sign that they made improvements. I'm really stoked, I just wish it was out now.
     
  14. faithblinded

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    Another thought, I wonder if this will introduce aperture limitations to high fps C-AF...?
     
  15. wjiang

    wjiang Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    What do you mean by this?
     
  16. faithblinded

    faithblinded Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Cameras with phase detect AF require f2.8 or f4 lenses to operate optimally, with all points. As your maximum aperture gets smaller, so does the usable focus area, typically ending with one center point available at f8, on the highest end cameras. So you have to have an f2.8-f4 lens to use all the focus areas. Add a 1.4x TC or use and f5.6 lens, and you will be able to use a cluster of focus points in the center region. Add a 2x converter to an f4 lens, or a 1.4x converter to an f5.6 lens, and you will get an f8 max aperture lens, which can only focus with the center point(on some cameras).
    This isn't usually relevent to us, since our cameras rely on contrast detect autofocus. They can AF slow lenses with all focus points, although usually more slowly than a fast lens at the same focal length. But the E-M1 has phase detect autofocus, and they seem to be indicating it will rely on it exclusively in high fps C-AF. So it makes me wonder will we see reduced focus points using, say, the Oly 75-300 at 300mm/f6.7, or the f5.6 long ends of the kit lenses for the system(or Panny 100-300). The reduction would only effect the highest speed shooting probably, but interesting to know anyways.
     
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  17. tomO2013

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    That's a really interesting point. I know on my old Canon that was definitely the case. Then again, the phase detection points were not on sensor so I wonder if the same rules apply to sensors with embedded phase detection points...
    Anybody with four thirds glass on their EM1 care to comment?
     
  18. Ross the fiddler

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    Some lenses slow down the frame rate & sometimes aperture might effect that too. The 4/3's 14-54 lens is slower in fps when at 54mm (f3.5) than 14mm wide open at f2.8. The slower fps is due to the operational speed of the aperture blades.
     
  19. Ccasey

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    Nice: "scheduled for release on February 24, 2015"

    Just in time for spring soccer. Looking forward to testing it out!