The best thing about the GF2?

Pelao

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Good point.
The second best thing is that it is stretching our minds and blogs over what comes next (if anything).
 

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And yet Amazon is still selling it for $680 with the kit lens? Odd.

Since I already have the 20, if I wanted one of these cameras, and if the GF2 is supposed to come in at the same basic price point as the gf1, I'd probably wait and get that one with the 28 (err, scuse me, the 14), which I might want anyway. I have no problem with moving the mode dial to the touch screen.

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I'd probably wait and get that one with the 28 (err, scuse me, the 14), which I might want anyway.

-Ray
Please don't confuse things further, the lens has a focal length of 14mm, that is a physical fact, the laws of physics apply, and that is how the lens should be referred to.

Barrie
 

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Please don't confuse things further, the lens has a focal length of 14mm, that is a physical fact, the laws of physics apply, and that is how the lens should be referred to.

Barrie
Barrie, you are correct, however, it could still be years yet before us "oldies" stop thinking in 35mm terms. With 35mm cameras a 28mm lens is 28mm, but a 14mm digital lens will act as a 28mm on a µ43 camera but something very different on a APS-C type for example.
 

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If I we're a rich man, I would go give it a spin. Even though I'm still loving, my good old GF1…

Now would be a great time to recommend the GF1 for friends. So much value for the money :)
 

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If I we're a rich man, I would go give it a spin. Even though I'm still loving, my good old GF1…

Now would be a great time to recommend the GF1 for friends. So much value for the money :)
I agree with you; GF2, imho, seems more a marketing move than a real improved camera respect the GF1.... indeed GF1 has more semi-pro features, while GF2 is more user-friendly such as Oly E-PL1 and Sony Nex.

In conclusion, I hold tight my GF1 :smile:

p.s. I hope my english is quite understandable :redface:
 

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Please don't confuse things further, the lens has a focal length of 14mm, that is a physical fact, the laws of physics apply, and that is how the lens should be referred to.

Barrie
You'll note that I added in parenthesis that it is in fact 14. Please forgive me the occasional brain fart as my feeble mind still thinks in terms of 35mm equivalents (whether anyone else likes it or not!). I was thinking of the lens as a 28, re-read my message, and edited to add the parenthesis. I admire your desire to see the whole 35mm equivalent thing eliminated, but some of us just think that way, best intentions aside.

-Ray
 

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You'll note that I added in parenthesis that it is in fact 14. Please forgive me the occasional brain fart as my feeble mind still thinks in terms of 35mm equivalents (whether anyone else likes it or not!). I was thinking of the lens as a 28, re-read my message, and edited to add the parenthesis. I admire your desire to see the whole 35mm equivalent thing eliminated, but some of us just think that way, best intentions aside.

-Ray
Hi Ray,

I did indeed note your use of parenthesis, and it would have been fairer of me to have given the whole quote in my response, for that I apologise.

My main concern in raising this issue was the confusion generated to newbies. People are welcome to think how they like in visualising the effects of a particular focal length lens on a particular format, but the plethora of ideas can be confusing. Time will tell I guess.

Barrie
 

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I have no problem with moving the mode dial to the touch screen. That's a dynamic change.
 

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I've had a play with a GF2 in the last few days. In spite of no dial, it seems to be quite easy and intuitive to use. And it SMALL, particularly with the 14mm pancake!!!!!

One useful thing is that you can use the touch screen to designate a focus point that the camera will follow around, until you take the shot!!
 

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Try it - you might like it!

It amazes me how many people dislike a camera they haven't even used. I think the touch screen actually adds another level of user ease. It was clear to me that it is positioned as Panasonic's gateway into the G series cameras.
 

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that's an awesome price...

The japanese got an even better deal, @ roughly US$527 for the 20mm kit.

DMC-GF1C-K

Obviously, all sold out :p

I'm tempted to buy one, but I think I should wait a bit more, until the GF2 is released around here. Buying from the US, I'll pay around C$650.
 

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It amazes me how many people dislike a camera they haven't even used. I think the touch screen actually adds another level of user ease. It was clear to me that it is positioned as Panasonic's gateway into the G series cameras.
that's why ppl don't like it, well.. the existing GF1 users anyway. They dumbed it down some.

It's not that the GF2 is bad, it's more that the idea that panasonic is leaving the enthusiast behind for the general market. It's the same reason the 50D owners were not happy with the 60D, canon redefined what they were marketing after.

luckily, the GF1 didn't suddenly become crap =) So I can wait and see what panasonic has in store. Personally, while my initial reaction was negative for where they are taking the GF line, I can live with it. So long as it doesn't get completely crippled in it's future iterations (or panasonic decides to follow oly and do two compact lines).
 

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I hope Panasonic has improved the color rendition on the GF2. I had a GF1 and sold it 'cause I couldn't get the color right no matter what. Shooting RAW and PP in Lightroom and Photoshop didn't help much. Landscapes and architecture shots were nice, but the camera can't get skin tones and the sky color right. I heard this was the only problem with the GF1 and not the G series line.
 

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