The 150-400mm f/4.5 PRO lense price on Czech store's website.

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Len's price info.

Saw this on a Czech store's website: https://www.oehling.cz/olympus-mzui...news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-07-13

Google Translate shows this:

With VAT: 249 990 CZK
Czech Koruna to US Dollar: $10,665.74

Without VAT: 206 603.00 CZK
Czech Koruna to US Dollar: $8,812.87

3 year warranty.

Olympus may as well exit with a big price. Hope their exit can support the price with some outstanding image quality out of it so old timers can sit back and say, "I remember when Olympus built some good stuff....for a hefty price."
 

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It's no surprise at all. Canon's pro 200-400 f4 lens is $11k. This one has more zoom range. Telephotos like this don't really change much based on the sensor size.

But yeah, who's going to buy it if they aren't sure about Olympus longevity?
 

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Yikes! That’s a hefty, albeit not completely surprising price. I was hoping it would have come in about 1/2 that, as this is now not looking good for my 1st born

*hands screaming child to two Japanese business men that show up at my door
*They hand me a beautiful case which houses the lens
*Lots of awkward bowing



Just kidding... I unfortunately don’t have a child to pay for this
 

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It's a lost cause. You get a very similar final result buying a slower zoom lens in FF (will give the same subject isolation)...raise ISO (to cheat the exposure triangle without significant loss in image quality really)...crop the image in post. And probably at half price.

Just a quick example, someone could buy a Canon 100-400 f4.5-5.6 for $2200. In terms of aperture and focal distance, it's not significantly different. And you get more subject isolation without too many efforts. (Crop it 200% to imitate m43 with the crop factor and you're still going to end up with +12 mpegapixels image)

Would someone spend an extra 6k for the Olympus lens even with built-in tc? Ok the Olympus lens might be sharper? Let's admit that. But I'm still questioning the price and the "value proposition" compared to other systems.
 
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The Canon 100-400 is probably more comparable in quality to the Panasonic 100-400 f4.0 - f6.3 which is $1500...

And you get the same subject isolation at the same focal length and aperture regardless of sensor size. A 25mm on a full-frame has the same DoF as a 25mm on a m43. It just has twice the field of view. If you crop FF down to the same field of view, the pictures are identical (subject to bokeh, lens quality, etc.) You only get the "same subject isolation" if you're comparing a slower FF lens at 2x focal length and same field of view. i.e. 25mm f1.4 m43 vs 50mm f2.8 FF. So in this case, you'd be talking a theoretical slower Canon 300-800 vs the Olympus at 150-400. What's the pricing on that?

Alternately, if you're cropped the FF behind the Canon 100-400 to the same sensor coverage as m43, you're going to have a somewhat lower resolution image (at most 12 mPix, maybe 5-7) and any likely gains in ISO come at the cost of much lower resolution. (And with worse subject isolation on the slower lens.) If you're using a full-frame body with extremely high resolution, the sensor sites are nearly the same size, and probably have comparable high ISO performance.
 

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The Canon 100-400 is probably more comparable in quality to the Panasonic 100-400 f4.0 - f6.3 which is $1500...

And you get the same subject isolation at the same focal length and aperture regardless of sensor size. A 25mm on a full-frame has the same DoF as a 25mm on a m43. It just has twice the field of view. If you crop FF down to the same field of view, the pictures are identical (subject to bokeh, lens quality, etc.) You only get the "same subject isolation" if you're comparing a slower FF lens at 2x focal length and same field of view. i.e. 25mm f1.4 m43 vs 50mm f2.8 FF. So in this case, you'd be talking a theoretical slower Canon 300-800 vs the Olympus at 150-400. What's the pricing on that?

Alternately, if you're cropped the FF behind the Canon 100-400 to the same sensor coverage as m43, you're going to have a somewhat lower resolution image (at most 12 mPix, maybe 5-7) and any likely gains in ISO come at the cost of much lower resolution. (And with worse subject isolation on the slower lens.) If you're using a full-frame body with extremely high resolution, the sensor sites are nearly the same size, and probably have comparable high ISO performance.
Even with all this sales pitch, it doesn't convince most people to spend that amount of money with all the other options out there.
 

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Every system has a mix of cheap, low-end, consumer lenses and expensive, high-end, professional lenses and bodies for customers to choose from. But only with Micro Four Thirds do people complain so much about having such a range of choices.
 

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This reminds me when I bought a turbo charged European four seater sports car about two decades ago. I was told that I could have bought a Japanese tubo four seater at about half the price or less. But that couldn't match the sub 5.7sec from 0 to 60MPH of my car. And that's before I even think of the fun factor I had in it.
 

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Canon has a 800mm f11 for $900 and the new r5 $3900 has 8stops IS so there are alternatives .
100% correct

Canon has a 200-400 F/4 for $11,000 and the new R5 for $3,900 with 8 stops IS, so there are alternatives.

or you could buy the Canon 800 F/5.6L for $13,000 or even a second hand 1200 F/5.6L for around $130,000. So yep, even more alternatives.

Danny.
 

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Finally, a firm price that I can plan for. Now for my funding plan. I think I'll have a Bake Sale. Cookie options will be Chocolate Chip or Oatmeal Raisin, and I will be offering an Apple Crumb Cake with a Cinnamon Swirl center. I will be taking pre-orders on the Cake and will be limiting them to two per customer, but they will come with a free Juice Box (flavors based on availability).

Pricing for Forum Members;

Chocolate Chip Cookies - $495.00 per dozen (really 13 cookies)
Oatmeal Raisin Cookies - $462.50 per dozen (ok, you get 14 in this order)
Apple Crumb Cake - $994.62 ( you may order it with a box for an additional $5.37) (please mention 'special box' in your order)

This will be a limited sale and all the proceeds will go to me,... for my new lens. Please know that I will share any images I take with it and high resolution versions will be made available at an affordable pricing structure similar to the cookies.

So, that's it. If you want to place an order I'll be in the kitchen...by the oven.
 
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Canon has a 200-400 F/4 for $11,000 and the new R5 for $3,900 with 8 stops IS, so there are alternatives.
Canon has a 800mm f11 for $900 and the new r5 $3900 has 8stops IS so there are alternatives .
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It isn't 8 stops. The 100-500 is combined 6 stops rated. We will have to see with actual testing how good it is since Fuji claimed a lot of stops on the X-T4 only to underdeliver and that's not even mentioning Nikon or Sony with the lame IBIS performance I've seen.

That and that 800mm f/11 is a fixed aperture, 6m MFD lens.

Different markets, different lenses. I can match (and beat) the 800mm f/11 with my $900 Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 with a TC to turn it into a 420mm f/4.0 but I don't hear anyone giving it praise when it is mounted to the E-M1II...
 

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That Canon IBIS system looks suspiciously similar to the Panasonic DUAL IS2
 

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I was never in the market for the new Pro zoom anyway. I'd far rather spend on the 300/4 and get a 100-400 , plus plenty of money left over.
 

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100% correct

Canon has a 200-400 F/4 for $11,000 and the new R5 for $3,900 with 8 stops IS, so there are alternatives.

or you could buy the Canon 800 F/5.6L for $13,000 or even a second hand 1200 F/5.6L for around $130,000. So yep, even more alternatives.

Danny.

Tell me how someone using let's say a $2,200 Canon 100-400 f4.5-5.6 with a FF body cannot replicate or even get better looking image (dr, subject separation, megapixels) than the m43 lens at +$3,000 (dare I say +$8,000).

Raise a bit the ISO one notch, and crop the image in post to imitate and cheat a "telephoto effect".

Oh so cropping a FF image lowers the resolution...compared to shooting directly a cropped image on a cropped sensor...so the difference of this pixel-peeping experiment is worth $6k ? I just want to have the justifications of such a hefty price.
 

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