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Supplemental Bokeh Comparison Between Olympus 25mm f/1.8 and Panasonic Leica 25mm f/1.4 at Matched A

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by Amin Sabet, Feb 22, 2014.

  1. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    Hopefully everyone has had a chance to check out Napier's excellent Part 1 comparison between the new Olympus 25mm f.1.8 and the Panasonic Leica 25mm f/1.4: Olympus 25mm f/1.8 Impressions Part I: Panasonic Comparison - Build, Perspective, Brightness, Bokeh,

    I thought it would be helpful to do a few supplemental posts to go along with Napier's. In this thread I'll share some additional bokeh samples.

    -In each of the following examples, the Olympus lens is shown first, followed by the Panasonic lens. You can click through any of the images for a full-res JPEG. The file names are given, and at the end of the post there are links for the corresponding RAW files for anyone who would like to process them for themselves.
    -2 of the sets were shot on an E-M1 and 3 on a GX7.
    -All files were processed from RAW in Lightroom 5.3, in some cases using Auto Tone and Auto WB to get a better match, so don't draw any conclusions about lens color characteristics from these.
    -Since the Olympus angle of view is wider, I moved the tripod forward for the Olympus shot in each case. I did my best to match the framing of the main subject, but moving the tripod and keeping the subject framing consistent means that other elements in the frame will shift.


    P2220010 (Olympus at f/1.8):

    12709578884_ec695fc6d2_b.

    P2220009 (Panasonic Leica at f/1.8):

    12709284113_57ffa6994e_b.


    P2220015 (Olympus at f/2):

    12709577514_7ecbc0c681_b.

    P2220016 (Panasonic Leica at f/2):

    12709575754_038749bd1e_b.


    P1090495 (Olympus at f/1.8):

    12709117675_3fbb4ffd11_b.

    P1090497 (Panasonic Leica at f/1.8):

    12709291353_e8ccd11079_b.


    P1090502 (Olympus at f/2.8):

    12709113205_484070dc7f_b.

    P1090500 (Panasonic Leica at f/2.8):

    12709115785_09583e4b63_b.


    P1090508 (Olympus at f/1.8):

    12709111935_b63369687c_b.

    P1090518 (Panasonic Leica at f/1.8):

    12709110655_ca1f1005e7_b.


    RAW files for download:
    P1090495.rw2: https://s3.amazonaws.com/mu43rawfiles/olypana25bokeh/P1090495.rw2
    P1090497.rw2: https://s3.amazonaws.com/mu43rawfiles/olypana25bokeh/P1090497.rw2
    P1090500.rw2: https://s3.amazonaws.com/mu43rawfiles/olypana25bokeh/P1090500.rw2
    P1090502.rw2: https://s3.amazonaws.com/mu43rawfiles/olypana25bokeh/P1090502.rw2
    P1090508.rw2: https://s3.amazonaws.com/mu43rawfiles/olypana25bokeh/P1090508.rw2
    P1090518.rw2: https://s3.amazonaws.com/mu43rawfiles/olypana25bokeh/P1090518.rw2
    P2220009.orf: https://s3.amazonaws.com/mu43rawfiles/olypana25bokeh/P2220009.orf
    P2220010.orf: https://s3.amazonaws.com/mu43rawfiles/olypana25bokeh/P2220010.orf
    P2220015.orf: https://s3.amazonaws.com/mu43rawfiles/olypana25bokeh/P2220015.orf
    P2220016.orf: https://s3.amazonaws.com/mu43rawfiles/olypana25bokeh/P2220016.orf
     
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2016
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  2. biomed

    biomed Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 22, 2013
    Seattle area
    Mike
    There is not a whole lot of difference. The Panasonic looks to have slightly less "harshness". In practice, I doubt that much difference will be seen.
     
  3. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    I agree - little difference. On close inspection, the Panasonic has a bit more axial CA (bokeh color fringing, best seen at 100% in the last example set).
     
  4. Harsher bokeh, or maybe also more contrast from the Olympus creating that impression?

    From the second example:

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    OlympusHistogram_zps82ba90e3.


    Panasonic
    PanasonicHistogram_zps3ec99af8.

    Olympus
    OlympusHistogram_zps28f4a94e.
     
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  5. FlyPenFly

    FlyPenFly Mu-43 Veteran

    448
    Feb 15, 2011
    Thanks for doing this, it's not fun work.

    The PL25 seems to have a bit more 3D-ness to it from increased micro contrast but that also seems to come with a bit more CA.

    The Oly25 seems perceptually slightly sharper especially around lettering but I think they were able to do this by using a lot of correction. This inevitably leads to harsher bokeh.
     
  6. speedandstyle

    speedandstyle Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Thanks! It looks like they are very similar at the same f-stops. The advantage of the 2/3 extra of the Panasonic will make the difference for some. For me however I would prefer to save a few bucks and have a slightly smaller/lighter lens. I also like the slightly wider angle and the closer focus ability. I will have to get one of these lenses before my summer shooting. Now I have to decide if I want to keep my 20mm or not.
     
  7. mattia

    mattia Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 3, 2012
    The Netherlands
    Don't really see more micro-contrast with the Panasonic, although what I see as micro contrast is more the Zeiss look than the Leica look; I think slightly prefer the rendering of the Oly, which is a little punchier.
     
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  8. orfeo

    orfeo Mu-43 Top Veteran

    673
    Sep 27, 2013
    FR
    More bokeh will alway result in more LoCA in the bokeh. Also faster lens always come with more LoCA, or you need APO design!
     
  9. dave729

    dave729 New to Mu-43

    2
    Dec 25, 2010
  10. Nuteshack

    Nuteshack Mu-43 Regular

    199
    Nov 19, 2013
    nice work ...looks like a great lens
     
  11. hkpzee

    hkpzee Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 5, 2011
    Hong Kong
    Patrick
    Agree!
     
  12. RevBob

    RevBob Super Moderator

    Jun 4, 2011
    NorthWestern PA
    Bob
    Interesting. I've been following these threads out of curiosity because I own the Panasonic 25. Given the similar results I might have purchased the Olympus lens because of the price difference. As it is, I don't regret buying the P25, it's an excellent lens and I like that it's a bit faster. I'm just glad that I didn't have to choose!
     
  13. BobBill

    BobBill Mu-43 Veteran

    261
    Dec 29, 2010
    MN USA
    Bob Hively-Johnson
    +1
     
  14. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    This resource has been removed and is no longer available for download.