Standard M43 zoom?

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by Growltiger, Jan 3, 2017.

  1. Growltiger

    Growltiger Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    I am getting the E-M1 II and will have my old E-M1 as a backup body. But now my wife is going to use the E-M1 and she needs a standard range zoom for it (not a prime). I have three choices:
    1. Buy the new 12-100 so she can use my 12-40. Would be quite nice but expensive.
    2. Buy a second hand 12-40, so I have two. Wonderful lens but to have two of them seems crazy?
    3. My question - what other standard M43 zoom lenses are there?
     
  2. RAH

    RAH Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Dec 1, 2013
    New Hampshire
    Rich
    The Panasonic 12-35 f2.8 is considered another high-IQ standard zoom for m43. It is somewhat smaller and lighter than the 12-40. You can find a lot of info about this lens on this forum, including threads comparing the two lenses. I have the 12-35 myself and like it a lot.
     
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  3. wjiang

    wjiang Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    P12-32 f/3.5-5.6, ultra compact, decently sharp but noticeable barrel distortion on the wide end, no MF ring.

    P12-60 f/3.5-5.6, nothing special but is weather-resistant.

    O12-50 f/3.5-6.3, good for macro, weather-resistant, so-so optically.

    There's also going to be a weather-resistant PL12-60 f/2.8-4 released alongside the GH5.

    Oh, and there's also a stack of 14-x slow zooms including some superzooms.

    Do you want a 12-100? If so then it might make sense. If you don't, then it seems silly to use this to justify buying one.

    Perhaps ask your wife what she wants... you never know, she might want a 12-100 for herself and you'll be using the 12-40 :p
     
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  4. Hypilein

    Hypilein Mu-43 Veteran

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    Mar 18, 2015
    Pretty sure if I asked my GF whether she wanted an O12-40 or an O12-100 she'd want the latter. I agree that getting two 12-40s seems overkill. Maybe wait for a few days for the new PL12-60 to arrive? Than you'll have even more choice!
     
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  5. Sam00

    Sam00 Mu-43 Regular

    I agree with @Hypilein having two 12-40s is really overkill. pana 12-35 is almost the same fov + have you considered oly 14-150mm?
    anyways, if she's noob in photography.. then get her a fast auto-focus lens.
     
  6. pake

    pake Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Oct 14, 2010
    Finland
    Teemu
    I'd wait a bit since Pana will introduce the new 12-60mm f/2.8-4 lens tomorrow and it's the lens I might swap my Oly 12-40mm to. It's lighter and has more reach. Likely more expensive too though...


    Plenty: Micro Four Thirds Lenses - HENNIGArts : Gear. And more coming...
     
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  7. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    I recently had the chance to use the Oly 14-150II.
    review HERE

    Having used the Oly primes and the PRO zooms, the 14-150 just makes too many compromises and the image quality was just not there for me....one of the few m43 lenses that I would not really recommend(I don't recommend the O12-50 either). I have the Panasonic 12-32 and the Oly 40-150R and they both, in my use and opinion are optically better than the 14-150II. The only thing the superzoom has over the others is weather sealing.

    I will also say too, that the P12-32 has some shutter shock issues on the Olympus bodies, so if you go that way, make sure to use the anti-shock mode in camera.

    I'd say go for the 12-100 if you can stretch the budget and it performs as others have claimed. It is very tempting for me, but having the 12-40/4-150 f/2.8 lenses, I can't really justify it.
     
  8. wimg

    wimg Mu-43 Regular

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    Dec 10, 2016
    Netherlands
    You could also consider the 14-42 EZ, the collapsible one. Not weathersealed, but a great lens nonetheless for the price.
    Its advantage is that it is extremely small, pancake like, although maybe a little too small in combination with an E-M1.

    To be very honest, I think you should ask your wife :).

    Kind regards, Wim
     
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  9. nstelemark

    nstelemark Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    May 28, 2013
    Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada
    Larry
    I haven't updated this review to include the 12-100f4 yet but I should.

    Native and Adapted Normal Zooms - a contrarian review

    The 12-100f4 is pretty special. To me it seems like the new 12-60 for m43. Sharp, not huge, fast enough with great reach.

    Ironically the 12-100 feels better balanced than the 12-40 mounted. The 12-40 and 12-60 really feel very similar when mounted because they are both front heavy designs. The 12-100 is better balanced and feels like less lens than the 12-60 even though they are pretty much the same weight.

    If you want the most versatile walk around lens the 12-100f4 really is the best choice.

    Personally if you did not want to spring for the 12-100 I would add a 12-35 instead of the 12-40. They are different enough to be worth having both.
     
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  10. SVQuant

    SVQuant Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Sep 20, 2015
    SF Bay Area, California, USA
    Sameer
    I would add the four-thirds 12-60/2.8-4 as another option to consider if she is comfortable with the weight. Given that they can found used in great condition for around $300 makes them the best bang for the buck fast standard zoom on an E-M1.

    Personally, I have the 14-150II and find it be quite acceptable as a walkaround and travel zoom, but agree that it is a notch below the 2.8 zooms in IQ.
     
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  11. nstelemark

    nstelemark Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    May 28, 2013
    Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada
    Larry
    There is no question the 12-60 and the 14-54 are the best value in these lenses. You can also use them with the EC14 and the output is pretty good.
     
  12. Wisertime

    Wisertime Mu-43 All-Pro

    Aug 6, 2013
    Philly
    Steve
    Oly 14-54 MK ii. $200 + adapter.
     
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  13. Growltiger

    Growltiger Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Mar 26, 2014
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    Thanks for all the suggestions.
    I will be interested to see how the new P12-60 turns out.
    The O14-150 doesn't sound good enough, and in addition she would want to be wider, ie. start at 12 not 14.
    Four-thirds lenses will be too large for her.
    The O12-100 would indeed probably be good for her. I have not seen a review yet. And it is expensive.
    Good to have lots of choice!
     
  14. The soon-to-be old 12-60 isn't bad, I really like its close-focus skills. Maybe not a $500 lens as listed, but here in the forum it's going for a decent discount at times. Nice range and weather resistant.
     
  15. DoofClenas

    DoofClenas Who needs a Mirror! Subscribing Member

    Nov 9, 2012
    Traverse City, MI
    Clint
    I'd opt for the 12-60 f2.8-4 if the reviews are favorable. That was an awesome lens for 4/3, covering 80% of what I liked to shoot. Otherwise the 12-100 f4, if you have other fast primes to go with it.
     
  16. MoonMind

    MoonMind Mu-43 Top Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Oct 25, 2014
    Switzerland
    Matt
    I get what you're saying about your preference for zooms that go wider than 14mm, but having used the 14-150mm II extensively (and often at 150mm) I think it's better than many make it out to be (and that's coming from someone who uses the 12-40mm as his main :mu43: lens, along with a whole host of primes).

    That said, I haven't shot with the 40-150mm R - it may be better at 150mm, but I've yet to see proof of that ... It's a question of sufficiency, and in my experience images from the superzoom at 150mm can turn out perfectly fine, reviews and test results notwithstanding ...

    This is just one example (at ISO 1600, nonetheless!):
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    on Flickr

    YMMV, of course - and yes, the PRO zooms are clearly superior (and the 12-100mm is truely a beast - I fully concur with what's been said about it). Just saying - don't depreciate the "less-than-perfect" lenses; most of them are actually solid performers.

    M.
     
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  17. Growltiger

    Growltiger Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Mar 26, 2014
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    I should explain that I'm a wide angle person. To me 14mm is verging on the telephoto.
    I have the O7-14 and the O9-18. 9mm is hopelessly long compared to 7mm, but the lens is tiny.
    So for a standard zoom, it really must do 12mm.
     
  18. drd1135

    drd1135 Zen Snapshooter Subscribing Member

    Mar 17, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    If the weight and size of the 12-100 works for you, I'd go that route. It looks to be an excellent lens will a truly impressive zoom range.
     
  19. Klorenzo

    Klorenzo Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 10, 2014
    Lorenzo
    Is your wife too? She may prefer a tele lens...
     
  20. Growltiger

    Growltiger Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Mar 26, 2014
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    I just asked her and she insists that she is a normal person. However I know that she has wide-angle views even if she won't admit it.
     
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