Sony Alpha 6000 Test in Amateur Photographer UK

WESO

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Tested in the UK's AP this week, read it out of interest and came away very impressed overall, especially the autofocus system on Continuous.

I quote -

]]"In use the 6000 switches focus points rapidly when tracking subjects using the 11fps hi speed continuous burst mode. demonstrated by small red AF points lighting up in the display as your subjects move across, towards or away in the frame. It's the closest thing many users will get to shooting fast moving subjects with a Nikon D4S or a canon EOS-1DX, for a fraction of the price"
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]Not sure it's a game changer as such but for a csc to have a AF system that good must be good surely.

Other than the rangefinder shape it would seem at 1st glance to me to be the ideal sports/action orientated CSC. The fact it recorded very very good resolution and noise results adds to the package.

I don't know the Sony system that well so would imagine downsides are a lack of primes and glass being heavier and bigger than our stuff.

It is also launched in the uk usefully cheaper than the GX7

Would welcome any views on the above

Mark:smile:
 

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....no matter how good they claimed, one thing for sure their lenses are craps except Zeiss 24mm f1.8
 

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Agreed..sony lenses are not that nice...had the zeiss 24mm F1.8..sold it real quick ,as I didn't think it was much if any improvement over sigma 30mm f2.8....only lens worth using on my old nex 7
 

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....no matter how good they claimed, one thing for sure their lenses are craps except Zeiss 24mm f1.8
Recently they do have some decent glass since the Zeiss 24. The two Touit lenses are average to above average, the UWA zoom is nice, as are the two FE lenses. They are in a no-win situation, because of the larger sensor, fast glass is going to be large. They try to make compromises by giving you a 1.8 lens instead of a 1.4 lens or a FF 2.8 35mm instead of a 1.8 or even 2.0. Another problem with the FE lenses is that they're larger, and the problem with Sony lenses in general from what I've experienced is sample variation. I had to go through 3 18-55 kit lenses, 4 35f/1.8 lenses, and 3 10-18 UWA lenses. I had Amazon call me and ask me why I was making so many returns, I told them because they were defective, they understood, then called me again telling me that their return specialists found nothing wrong with the returns. I told them that they were de-centered, had fault AF motors, etc, but they didn't seem to understand, when I asked how they can state that they are not defective, their response was 'Our return specialist mounted it on a camera and found nothing wrong with it'. That reason alone is why I am hesistant to return to Sony, they single handedly almost had me black listed from Amazon.
 

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From several reviews, I read that the Panasonic GH4 has equally good tracking and better AF!
That's great news, hopefully that tech makes it down the line to the lower end cameras soon. I tried to love a Nex 6, but the UI blew chunks. They still don't let you set minimum shutter speed for auto-iso and you can't set focus priority of shutter priority. Even if I could get past that, the lens selection stinks, is expensive and it seems they don't have a lot of interest in APSC-E mount anymore.
 

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That's great news, hopefully that tech makes it down the line to the lower end cameras soon. I tried to love a Nex 6, but the UI blew chunks. They still don't let you set minimum shutter speed for auto-iso and you can't set focus priority of shutter priority. Even if I could get past that, the lens selection stinks, is expensive and it seems they don't have a lot of interest in APSC-E mount anymore.
I concur, I once owned a NEX-5N, but the clunky menu system didn't help me much - I concluded it had a great sensor, but was slightly lacking as a camera. Swapped it for an E-PM2 and have been happier off since :biggrin:
 

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Some Sony E mount lenses are very good if you find a good copy. The downside is it's hard to find a decent copy, and they are generally larger and more expensive than m4/3 lenses. The best E mound lens, SZ 55mm/1.8, lacks stabilization. I had used NEX system for over a year before switching back to M4/3 earlier this year. The rendering of PL 42.5 just blew me away.
 

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Just played with an A6000 and the AF tracking is really good. Saying that I think I could wait for M43 to develop solid CAF across the board. Olympus and Panasonic have the size/performance balance just right.
 

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I shoot with both a Sony A6000 & Olympus OM-D E-M1. For my purposes, each lens lineup complements the other.

M43 is lacking in a constant aperture standard zoom with a decent range that is light (Zeiss 16-70mm. And yes, Olympus 12-40's range is insufficient for me). M43 is also lacking in a constant aperture UWA zoom that takes filters (Sony 10-18mm). I also enjoy the tiny Sony 20/2.8 prime (I love it's 30mm FOV).

I use the E-M1 for the Leica 25/1.4. I'm also considering the new 15/1.7.

Both systems are awesome. Carrying both while on vacation or walk-around minimises lens swapping and gets me an ideal zoom/prime setup.

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M43 is lacking in a constant aperture standard zoom with a decent range that is light (Zeiss 16-70mm. And yes, Olympus 12-40's range is insufficient for me). M43 is also lacking in a constant aperture UWA zoom that takes filters (Sony 10-18mm). I also enjoy the tiny Sony 20/2.8 prime (I love it's 38mm FOV).
How do you find the A6000 for focus speed and tracking? I've used NEX cameras in the past and this is one of the areas that frustrated me. I've been very pleased with the S-AF performance I've gotten with the OMDs. But one area that I'm still practicing on with the OMD is C-AF.
 

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How do you find the A6000 for focus speed and tracking? I've used NEX cameras in the past and this is one of the areas that frustrated me. I've been very pleased with the S-AF performance I've gotten with the OMDs. But one area that I'm still practicing on with the OMD is C-AF.
I hardly use C-AF, as I rarely shoot moving targets. But, I did do a quick comparison with both (laser pointer waved about - 3 cats going berserk). The A6000 provided a bit more hit rate, with regards to focus accuracy. But the E-M1 was close enough. I wouldn't switch from the E-M1 to A6000 just for C-AF though. This wasn't an accurate comparison, as I had the Zeiss zoom on the A6000 and Leica 25 on the E-M1.

Oh, BTW, the A6000 is fast with Single AF. Focuses well in the dark too. There's really no downside to the A6000 other than the lack of a touch screen and it's manual AF-point selection method. I love it's onboard flash, which I pull back and bounce indoors. Works well:
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The A6000 provided a bit more hit rate, with regards to focus accuracy. But the E-M1 was close enough. I wouldn't switch from the E-M1 to A6000 just for C-AF though. This wasn't an accurate comparison, as I had the Zeiss zoom on the A6000 and Leica 25 on the E-M1.
Thanks for the info. I'm not looking to switch – I'm very happy with the Olympus kit I've put together these past few months. I was just curious how far the Sony has improved since the prior generation. And nice shot of the cat :)
 
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