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Sony Alpha 6000 Test in Amateur Photographer UK

Discussion in 'This or That? (MFT only)' started by WESO, May 3, 2014.

  1. WESO

    WESO Mu-43 Regular

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    Feb 12, 2014
    Tested in the UK's AP this week, read it out of interest and came away very impressed overall, especially the autofocus system on Continuous.

    I quote -

    ]]"In use the 6000 switches focus points rapidly when tracking subjects using the 11fps hi speed continuous burst mode. demonstrated by small red AF points lighting up in the display as your subjects move across, towards or away in the frame. It's the closest thing many users will get to shooting fast moving subjects with a Nikon D4S or a canon EOS-1DX, for a fraction of the price"
    ]
    ]Not sure it's a game changer as such but for a csc to have a AF system that good must be good surely.

    Other than the rangefinder shape it would seem at 1st glance to me to be the ideal sports/action orientated CSC. The fact it recorded very very good resolution and noise results adds to the package.

    I don't know the Sony system that well so would imagine downsides are a lack of primes and glass being heavier and bigger than our stuff.

    It is also launched in the uk usefully cheaper than the GX7

    Would welcome any views on the above

    Mark:smile:
     
  2. rezatravilla

    rezatravilla Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 7, 2013
    Indonesia
    Reza Travilla
    ....no matter how good they claimed, one thing for sure their lenses are craps except Zeiss 24mm f1.8
     
  3. scott2hot

    scott2hot Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 27, 2012
    west yorkshire
    scott
    Agreed..sony lenses are not that nice...had the zeiss 24mm F1.8..sold it real quick ,as I didn't think it was much if any improvement over sigma 30mm f2.8....only lens worth using on my old nex 7
     
  4. taz98spin

    taz98spin Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    May 13, 2011
    NYC
  5. JYPfoto

    JYPfoto Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 27, 2013
    Recently they do have some decent glass since the Zeiss 24. The two Touit lenses are average to above average, the UWA zoom is nice, as are the two FE lenses. They are in a no-win situation, because of the larger sensor, fast glass is going to be large. They try to make compromises by giving you a 1.8 lens instead of a 1.4 lens or a FF 2.8 35mm instead of a 1.8 or even 2.0. Another problem with the FE lenses is that they're larger, and the problem with Sony lenses in general from what I've experienced is sample variation. I had to go through 3 18-55 kit lenses, 4 35f/1.8 lenses, and 3 10-18 UWA lenses. I had Amazon call me and ask me why I was making so many returns, I told them because they were defective, they understood, then called me again telling me that their return specialists found nothing wrong with the returns. I told them that they were de-centered, had fault AF motors, etc, but they didn't seem to understand, when I asked how they can state that they are not defective, their response was 'Our return specialist mounted it on a camera and found nothing wrong with it'. That reason alone is why I am hesistant to return to Sony, they single handedly almost had me black listed from Amazon.
     
  6. yakky

    yakky Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jul 1, 2013
    That's great news, hopefully that tech makes it down the line to the lower end cameras soon. I tried to love a Nex 6, but the UI blew chunks. They still don't let you set minimum shutter speed for auto-iso and you can't set focus priority of shutter priority. Even if I could get past that, the lens selection stinks, is expensive and it seems they don't have a lot of interest in APSC-E mount anymore.
     
  7. plutoniumhunter

    plutoniumhunter Mu-43 Regular

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    May 9, 2011
    Maldives
    I concur, I once owned a NEX-5N, but the clunky menu system didn't help me much - I concluded it had a great sensor, but was slightly lacking as a camera. Swapped it for an E-PM2 and have been happier off since :biggrin:
     
  8. MaK543

    MaK543 Mu-43 Regular

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    May 1, 2012
    MD USA
    Some Sony E mount lenses are very good if you find a good copy. The downside is it's hard to find a decent copy, and they are generally larger and more expensive than m4/3 lenses. The best E mound lens, SZ 55mm/1.8, lacks stabilization. I had used NEX system for over a year before switching back to M4/3 earlier this year. The rendering of PL 42.5 just blew me away.
     
  9. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, CA
    Just played with an A6000 and the AF tracking is really good. Saying that I think I could wait for M43 to develop solid CAF across the board. Olympus and Panasonic have the size/performance balance just right.
     
  10. After trying out a NEX 5N I sold it and bought a Samsung. Now they know how to make nice (and compact) APS-C prime lenses.
     
  11. sabesh

    sabesh Mu-43 Veteran

    I shoot with both a Sony A6000 & Olympus OM-D E-M1. For my purposes, each lens lineup complements the other.

    M43 is lacking in a constant aperture standard zoom with a decent range that is light (Zeiss 16-70mm. And yes, Olympus 12-40's range is insufficient for me). M43 is also lacking in a constant aperture UWA zoom that takes filters (Sony 10-18mm). I also enjoy the tiny Sony 20/2.8 prime (I love it's 30mm FOV).

    I use the E-M1 for the Leica 25/1.4. I'm also considering the new 15/1.7.

    Both systems are awesome. Carrying both while on vacation or walk-around minimises lens swapping and gets me an ideal zoom/prime setup.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
     
  12. PatrickNSF

    PatrickNSF Mu-43 Regular

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    San Francisco, CA
    Patrick
    How do you find the A6000 for focus speed and tracking? I've used NEX cameras in the past and this is one of the areas that frustrated me. I've been very pleased with the S-AF performance I've gotten with the OMDs. But one area that I'm still practicing on with the OMD is C-AF.
     
  13. sabesh

    sabesh Mu-43 Veteran

    I hardly use C-AF, as I rarely shoot moving targets. But, I did do a quick comparison with both (laser pointer waved about - 3 cats going berserk). The A6000 provided a bit more hit rate, with regards to focus accuracy. But the E-M1 was close enough. I wouldn't switch from the E-M1 to A6000 just for C-AF though. This wasn't an accurate comparison, as I had the Zeiss zoom on the A6000 and Leica 25 on the E-M1.

    Oh, BTW, the A6000 is fast with Single AF. Focuses well in the dark too. There's really no downside to the A6000 other than the lack of a touch screen and it's manual AF-point selection method. I love it's onboard flash, which I pull back and bounce indoors. Works well:
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    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
     
  14. sabesh

    sabesh Mu-43 Veteran

    Please delete. Posted by mistake.
     
  15. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    Personally, I don't put a lot of credence on things I read in Amateur Photographer. Maybe the Sony A6000 is a great camera, but I wouldn't trust AP to tell me that!
     
  16. sabesh

    sabesh Mu-43 Veteran

    It's not just AP. Pretty much every review site gives the A6000 thumbs up.
     
  17. PatrickNSF

    PatrickNSF Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 30, 2011
    San Francisco, CA
    Patrick
    Thanks for the info. I'm not looking to switch – I'm very happy with the Olympus kit I've put together these past few months. I was just curious how far the Sony has improved since the prior generation. And nice shot of the cat :)
     
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