Mike Wingate
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Looks a great camera, back to reality. A new GX9 looks appealing and it takes my lenses, but, oh! Is a new model just around the corner.?
Nice. I mean, if you are going to have all those megapixels, you may as well get a bigger sensor. It's pretty good value. The Hasselblad 100mp back is 24K, but then you need a camera body as well
Damn, the A1 features 1/200 sec e-shutter. I hope that the next gen OMD will get to 1/500 sec. Or even better. Anyway with the Fuji X-E4 intro today and aggressive price tag ($800) M4/3 is in real push now. No wonder the PEN F II is not happening.Sony announces flagship A1
50MP, 8K video
From dpreview.com: "It will cost around $6500 / €7,300 / £6,500 and will be available in March."
Do you know something the rest of us don’t? I mean I suppose that’s probable, but you sound very definitive in your statement.No wonder the PEN F II is not happening.
I'm not sure what PEN FII was rumoured to have but this X-E4 can't even match Panny GX9 specs and yet it's more expensive. It's funny how DPR managed to list only entry level APS-C models like Z50 (which is not a rangefinder style camera) as competitors and happily ignore MFT entirely. Even G9 is sold at practically the same price.Anyway with the Fuji X-E4 intro today and aggressive price tag ($800) M4/3 is in real push now. No wonder the PEN F II is not happening.
That might be a fun one to rent for a weekend with a basic lens just to see what kind of photos you could get out of it.
Yes wider angle primes and mirrorless FF is not bad. It is the long lenses (primes and zooms) that get to be the monsters. But a mirrorless full frame with the old basic nifty-50 and an "event-35" should be roughly on par size & weight size with the E-M1.x with its wider to short telephoto primes. I could probably by happy with just that if I was ever forced out of m43 and was looking for something else.but size and weight is really no longer as much as a difference as it used to be. My Sony kit with 5 high end primes (4 Zeiss and the Sony 20mm f1.8) is only 10 pounds
Yeah - but that argument only really applies if you stick to primes and under about 100mm focal length. Throw in a 70-200 f2.8 (or even f4) and things change very quickly.Look, I love my EM1.3 and lenses, there are many advantages to it, but size and weight is really no longer as much as a difference as it used to be. My Sony kit with 5 high end primes (4 Zeiss and the Sony 20mm f1.8) is only 10 pounds including the Mindshift sling bag. With the Olympus Pro primes the weight would be about the same, but of course the small Olympus f1.8 compact primes would be less, but so might be the IQ.
Paul, first off my intention was not meant to be argumentative but more as informative, as I am a 8 year M4/3 vet with now 2-1/2 years experience with Sony FF. I was giving information on my Sony Portrait kit which is all primes. I agree with you about the Sony’s zooms, many are big and old school designs coming from DSLR designs. I don’t own what is considered the standard Pro kit of f2.8 zooms of 24-70 and 70-200 for Sony for this reason. Do have the 3 Pro f2.8 zooms from Olympus though.Yeah - but that argument only really applies if you stick to primes and under about 100mm focal length. Throw in a 70-200 f2.8 (or even f4) and things change very quickly.
I agree. "Vitriol" is far too strong. Light hearted ribbing maybe. Some jealousy (as John Flores mentioned - I wish my life and pictures were interesting enough to afford this). I don't see anyone saying it's stupid or bad. I think overall, it's "I can't afford this" but very little "it's overpriced." People know what it is. It's just out of reach for most.Not really. You need to go elsewhere for abundance in the vitriol department.
My first thought exactly and honestly if I had to chose between either this new Sony or one of the Leica M rangefinders, I'd actually rather get a Leica. But that's just me, I'm pretty sure the Sony will not only serve gearheads but also professionals right. However such prices are well out of my range, I could buy a whole MFT system, a whole Fuji-X system or actually a mix of both with that kind of money.A1 or Leica? Tough call![]()
Yeah, that price isn't unheard of for Sony though. Look at the office of the 600mm f4.And to think that people were complaining about the price of the 150-400 Pro![]()