Some thoughts on the GH3

Discussion in 'Panasonic Cameras' started by sgoldswo, Dec 1, 2012.

  1. sgoldswo

    sgoldswo Mu-43 Regular

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    I don't think this is a camera for everyone, but it is very, very good. The image quality is excellent, the ergonomics are great, the controllability is great, it has an electronic shutter, the build quality is excellent. Contrary to some other views i've seen on the net, I don't think there is an issue with the viewfinder. All in very happy with a price of £839 after cashback too! :biggrin:

    In any event, full post here: Holy cow this camera is good (initial thoughts on the GH3)… « sgoldswoblog

    Some samples from yesterday lunchtime:

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  2. ShrubMonkey

    ShrubMonkey Mu-43 Regular

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    Wow £839 after cash back is good, considering WEX have it around £1.2k
     
  3. sgoldswo

    sgoldswo Mu-43 Regular

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  4. Manu-4Vendetta

    Manu-4Vendetta Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Those pictures just convince. Improvement abysmally the photo still of the GH2, I can get those colors, for more time devoted to Lightroom and video obviously there are improvements, though it seems that in the moire have receded.
     
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  5. jloden

    jloden Mu-43 Hall of Famer

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    Great review, matches exactly my initial thoughts on the GH3 (got mine yesterday). I need to shoot lots more with it to finalize my thoughts but so far I completely concur on all your points. Nice shots, too :smile:
     
  6. The photos look great. Nice and crisp! There's something about how the colours look as well. Bright without being too saturated.
     
  7. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

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    Really great photos. I think the GH3 has to be the perfect camera for the three lenses you used (P7-14, 12-35, 35-100).
     
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  8. tdekany

    tdekany Mu-43 All-Pro

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    Wonderful pictures!
     
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  9. sgoldswo

    sgoldswo Mu-43 Regular

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    Cheers! Having been stuck in the house yesterday, I got to play with the video and wifi. Video I found impressive in its flexibility and quality. Cannot wait to try out my voigtlander lenses with the GH3.

    Wifi I was less impressed with - could not get the camera to link to my iPhone. I suspect this is the app for ios rather than the camera. The app would crash every time I tried to establish a direct link to the camera.
     
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  10. sgoldswo

    sgoldswo Mu-43 Regular

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    Unsurprisingly I absolutely agree! One of my annoyances with myself when using many other M43s cameras is that I tend to try and take every lens under the sun because there are a very good number of great lenses now.

    When I put the GH3 in my bag I just thought to myself that all I would need would be those 3 zooms (at least for a decent road test). My back thanked me the whole time I was out... :smile:

    I do want to see whether I notice the lack of IBIS using the voigtlander lenses (amongst others) - I suspect not given their short focal lengths and speed but we'll see.
     
  11. sgoldswo

    sgoldswo Mu-43 Regular

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    There is something about the image quality, even in RAW, with this camera. Very sharp results, sharper than I was expecting based on previous experience. The graduation of the colours is nice too and actually reminds me to the effect I used to be able to achieve with my old A900.

    I need to try it with the Oly 75mm and Oly 45 for confirmation of my views but I rather suspect Panny are onto a winner with this one...
     
  12. Brian G

    Brian G Mu-43 Veteran

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    If you should be able to comment on this further, I'm particularly interested in sharpness (i.e. resolution of detail, acutance) from RAW files with the GH3, and even more so if you can reference to either the EM5 or the GH2. I'm not convinced that the EM5 is giving me the level of acutance I expected from it, and I'm not sure quite what to attribute this to, or even if it's my imagination.

    I also have a GH2, FYI.

    So any thoughts on this are appreciated. And congratulations on the new camera!

    Brian
     
  13. arad85

    arad85 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Take a look here:

    [CSC] G5 vs GH3 - a very quick image comparison - Talk Photography

    GH3 vs G5 (same sensor as the GH2).

    Yes, the raws are sharper but I can get the raws from a G5 to look almost identical.
     
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  14. Brian G

    Brian G Mu-43 Veteran

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    Thanks. Interesting, particularly the center crop comparison. If this difference in resolved detail were repeatable, and similarly improved over the EM5, it would possibly explain my slight ambivalence toward the EM5 images.

    Brian
     
  15. sgoldswo

    sgoldswo Mu-43 Regular

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    Just a thought, but have you tried turning off IBIS? Will come back to you on the rest if I notice anything materially different from the E-M5
     
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  16. sgoldswo

    sgoldswo Mu-43 Regular

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    Do disagree with the conclusions/comments on the link (used to own a G5). I find materially better DR (it's enough), noise performance and sharpness with the GH3 files.

    I know I couldn't have pulled some of the shots above out of the G5 - the view down the river is one I doubt I could have achieved with the G5.
     
  17. jnewell

    jnewell Mu-43 All-Pro

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    Q for me is whether it's worth the added bulk...the compelling rationale for m4/3 is the savings of bulk and weight, and the GH3 is enough bigger that I'm not sure I'd spring for it. Very subjectively, at some point I flip into DSLR territory and I'm not sure the GH3 isn't over that line, though I haven't had a chance to handle one (and, given Panasonic's US dealer network, probably never will).

    Love your blog, by the way. :2thumbs:
     
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  18. arad85

    arad85 Mu-43 Veteran

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    It was my conclusions in the linked thread.

    I asked someone to provide something high dynamic range to make me want to buy the GH3. At the moment, with raws in my hands from both GH3 and G5 taken at the same location, with the same lens, under nearly identical lighting, I haven't seen anything compelling for the GH3 and I have a few photos where it should shine.

    I also have the opportunity to buy the GH3 at £840. I'd really like it to be something special, but as a raw shooter, I am not seeing anything that makes it head and shoulders above the G5.
     
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  19. sgoldswo

    sgoldswo Mu-43 Regular

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    Sure, you can push the G5 really well to get excellent results. I don't dispute that, despite the fact it can't match the DR of the Gh3 sensor.

    The biggest differences (apart from the DR and the high ISO performance, which can go to 6400 and still produce useable results (pushing it, ISO 3200 is better, but I wouldn't like to go beyond 1600 with the G5)) you will see is the increased sharpness of the output using the same lenses, which I stand behind, since I owned the G5 and own the GH3 and the fact that the noise performance of the sensor in the G5 can't stand up to the GH3 in murky conditions - it becomes noisier, quicker, in lower light.

    I took some photos using the G5 and 35-100 when the 35-100 came out, in relatively poor light, and was disappointed with its performance relative to the E-M5 in similar conditions. In similar murk the GH3 seems to hold up at least as well as the E-M5

    All I can say to you is that having owned and used both cameras I do think there is a little bit more in the tank in the GH3, including for stills performance. The video, build quality and extra features (wifi etc) are rather nice too. I wasn't sure it was worth the difference at £1199, but at £840 it is.
     
  20. sgoldswo

    sgoldswo Mu-43 Regular

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    Cheers! I don't think it's the camera for everyone and you make a good point on that which is related to size as well as complexity - for a lot of people who are P&S upgraders something like a E-PM2 or E-PL5 might be better and for those who value size but want a viewfinder, the E-M5 might be a better choice.