Some initial thoughts on the Oly 17mm F1.8

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by sgoldswo, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. sgoldswo

    sgoldswo Mu-43 Regular

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    I really like this lens, it isn't razor sharp like the Oly 45 and 75 but it is still relatively sharp across the frame and it's (really) great fun to shoot with.

    Some further thoughts here: “Street” with the Olympus 17mm F1.8 « sgoldswoblog

    Samples:

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  2. Chrisnmn

    Chrisnmn Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 26, 2012
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    Chris
    Thanks for the review. Now i wonder. You say it is a very good but not stellar lens. But you do say is as sharp as the p20 and even sharper on the edges. Also say is full metal body and that the manual focus is as great as the o12. And to me with all that said makes me want to get the lens right now!!!. Did i miss something on your review or we certainly have different point of view about an stellar lens? Please let me know.
     
  3. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
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    Chris : please don't quote full picture posts.

    SGoldswo : I'm assuming you don't have the older 17F2.8, I'd love to see a few crops from a side-by-side wide-open scene, maybe with the 20mm also.
     
  4. hazwing

    hazwing Mu-43 All-Pro

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    did you add a bit of clarity in post processing, or is that sooc?
     
  5. arch stanton

    arch stanton Mu-43 Veteran

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    Malc
    This is right round the corner from my office! Nice shots of some familiar locations :)
     
  6. sgoldswo

    sgoldswo Mu-43 Regular

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    No, you didn't miss anything. I guess I'm a little spoiled by owning lenses like the 75, 45 and 60 which are amongst the best examples of their (equivalent) focal lenghts that I've seen for any system. The PL 25 is also in that bracket or thereabouts. The 20 is in the bracket of being very, very good along with the 12 (together with other lenses like the 12-35mm). I think (though I want to spend more time with it to be sure) that the 17 is in that second bracket.
     
  7. sgoldswo

    sgoldswo Mu-43 Regular

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    Ulfric : You are right that I don't own the older 17mm (though I do own the Voigtlander). I will try to get that done over the next few days. I want a few more examples first if I can.
     
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  8. sgoldswo

    sgoldswo Mu-43 Regular

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    I work in RAW and so these aren't OOC jpegs. These don't reflect exactly what came out of the camera (for the colour versions I've adjusted contrast, saturation, sharpening, shadows and highlights in accordance with my usual presets and the B&W are processed through NIK Silver EFEX) but if I were interested in the lens I would want to know the best I could get out of it. I can confirm that these aren't patched or otherwise photoshoped in anyway
     
  9. sgoldswo

    sgoldswo Mu-43 Regular

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    Cheers! I'm over on Old Broad Street but will be moving to Appold Street in the new year
     
  10. RevBob

    RevBob Super Moderator

    Jun 4, 2011
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    Bob
    Interesting thoughts, thanks for sharing. The photos look great.
     
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  11. BigTam

    BigTam Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Ron
    I've just done a few test shots to compare with my P20. I found the 20 to be sharper, but only if you peeked at 100%.

    I prefer the 17 focal length, and the AF is much quicker.

    Not sure what I'll do; I will either keep just one, or return the 17, sell the 20 and use my X100 instead.

    Good problems to have :)
     
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  12. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
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    Tam any chance of posting two small 100% crops from the centre to show the sharpness difference you have found?
     
  13. BigTam

    BigTam Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Ron
    Ulfric, I already deleted them, but I will try to repeat the test tomorrow.

    I shot on a tripod, about 3m from a bookcase. IBIS off, ISO 200, f1.8, 2s shutter delay. Shutter speed was 1/6s.
     
  14. BigTam

    BigTam Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Ron
    OK, it was halftime in the cup game between Borussia Dortmund and Hannover 96 (3:0 for Dortmund, super!), so I quickly repeated the test shots. Very quick and dirty I'm afraid, but for what it's worth:

    100% crops, SOOC:

    O17, centre, f1.8, ISO 200, 1/6s:
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    P20, centre, f1.8, ISO 200, 1/6s:
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    O17, corner, f1.8, ISO 800, 1/30s:
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    P20, corner, f1.8, ISO 800, 1/25s:
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  15. metalmania

    metalmania Mu-43 Veteran

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    I see hand-shake. It is not suitable for comparison.
     
  16. BigTam

    BigTam Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Ron
    Tripod, 2s shutter delay, 100% crops, SOOC JPGs
     
  17. metalmania

    metalmania Mu-43 Veteran

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    Thanks. Then I am a little bit disappointed.
     
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  18. Livnius

    Livnius Super Moderator

    Jul 7, 2011
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    Joe
    If this is typical, then the P20 takes it to the cleaners....but that is something entirely non related to the important issues focal length, AF speed, snap focus ring etc.

    Plenty of tests and samples out now and it seems clear that the O17 doesn't quite compete with the P20 when peeping at 100% crops, it's simply a case of do the other features interest you enough. In my case yes...hence why I have one arriving next week.

    Has to be said though....damn that humble old P20 is one heck of an astonishing lens !
     
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  19. twalker294

    twalker294 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Pixel peeping usually leads to disappointment. No the 17 isn't as sharp as the 20 but in real world use it seems to be just fine. If it's a focal length that you would use and you want the f/1.8 speed, then buy it. If not, then don't.
     
  20. BigTam

    BigTam Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Ron
    My test shots are in no way professional, and I am no pixel-peeper. I recently shot similar comparison shots between the 9-18 and the 12mm. I found the differences slight, and kept the 9-18 for its flexibility.

    I certainly am not dissatisfied with the P20; the slow AF doesn't worry me much.

    I believe I will return the O17 and sell the P20 and use my X100 for this focal length: maybe I'll redo the test shots tomorrow with the Fuji.

    YMMV ...