So what am I supposed to with 80M pixels?

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by ThomD, Feb 7, 2017.

  1. ThomD

    ThomD Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    I was finally playing with high resolution mode and now I don't know what to do with it. Of course, Lightroom won't touch the raw files, maybe someday. I'm going to have to learn Oly viewer. Export a TIff and you get a quarter gigabyte file.

    It is a neat feature, I just don't know when I would ever use that many pixels. I feel like I ought to leave some for the next guy.
     
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  2. T N Args

    T N Args Agent Photocateur

    Dec 3, 2013
    Adelaide, Australia
    call me Arg
    Lightroom has no trouble with the 63MP files from the E-M5 II.
     
  3. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    I use my E-M5 II's Hi-Res mode to shoot landscape shots. Here are a few examples:

    31618121512_1518b6c166_h. Purple Morning in Pittsburgh by Ian Menego, on Flickr

    31638866623_ce55068c69_h. Foggy Sunrise - Nokton 25 by Ian Menego, on Flickr

    The extra detail that is provided is simply astonishing. It's very handy to have when making large prints on medium that require higher DPI than printing on canvas. Hell, this past weekend I just shot a 3-wide HDR Hi-Res panorama. It's something like 16,000 pixels wide, would easily allow me to print it 4.5-6.5 feet wide, making it great for office spaces, hanging above a couch, etc.
     
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  4. ThomD

    ThomD Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Yes, but will not touch the 80Mp files from the EM1.2
     
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  5. ThomD

    ThomD Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Nice shots. Of course there are people that do need that ability. I dunno, 4Mp should be enough for any one. :)
     
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  6. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    I'm sure it will in a future update. In the meantime, just use Olympus Viewer to manipulate the RAW file for your highlights & shadows, save as a JPEG, import in to LR to finish editing (contrast, clarity, white/black point, color toning, etc.).
     
  7. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    4MP is simply not enough for doing large landscape prints. Like you said, there are people who "need" that ability (while I don't "need" it, it certainly does make my life easier, especially when people ask for very large prints). For regular shooting, it's pretty useless. You need a specialized case of where it proves its value, i.e. landscape type shots like I've shown, or product photography where fine detail is important.

    I must say, before I got the E-M5 II it's a feature I never even thought about, but now that I have it, I use it whenever the situation permits. It's like night and day comparing the Hi-Res file to the native 16MP file.
     
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  8. ThomD

    ThomD Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    OK, did you really think I was serious? Have you never heard the Bill Gates quote, "640K ought to be enough for anybody."?

    I am quite happy to agree that every single tool I use has abilities that I do not use but that others do. It is freakin' awesome that the feature exists.

    BTW, those landscapes look great.
     
  9. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    You very well may have been serious. Some people may be fine with 4MP of resolution if all they do is share images via social media, make small prints for family members, memory books, etc.

    Like you said, it's great that the cameras have that feature. Not everybody will use it, but then again there are features on my E-M1 and E-M5 II that I don't use. That doesn't mean I wouldn't want them in the camera though. That's why I always laugh at people who say "just give me a camera with a fixed rear screen and no video mode". While that may be the ideal camera for a select group of people, no camera company in their right mind (well, except maybe Leica) would produce a camera like that because they would never be able to recoup the development cost due to it only appealing to a small, targeted market of users. So, put as many features in the camera as you can so it appeals to as many users as possible.

    Like I said before, in time LR will support the files (probably at the same time when the final RAW processing for that camera is released). In the mean time, Olympus Viewer should be able to handle them just fine.
     
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  10. AllanG

    AllanG Mu-43 Veteran

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    Allan
  11. ThomD

    ThomD Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Thanks, but it didn't work for the 80Mp file into Photoshop 2017. Like I said, I don't think I'd use the feature, so it isn't a problem for me. Sort of like not being able to do in camera focus stacking with my lenses - it wasn't a consideration when I bought the camera, so I won't miss it.
     
  12. Carbonman

    Carbonman Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Jul 10, 2014
    Vancouver BC
    Graham
    Save the image as a TIFF so you can do all the manipulation in LR that you typically do with ORF files.
     
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  13. Growltiger

    Growltiger Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    One way you can make good use of all those pixels - other than make huge prints - is to use Zoomify and put the image on the web. The user can zoom in and see every pixel. I use this program for panoramas with far more pixels than that, it works very well.
     
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  14. Joe Smith

    Joe Smith Mu-43 Regular

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    Maybe it's just me, but creating a 80MP raw file and then saving it as JPEG for further editing sounds like a contradiction to me. I would save it as TIFF.
     
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  15. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    I use high res mode anytime I slap my E-M5 II on a tripod. I have some big 30 in. plus prints from it hanging on my wall and they look amazing. It has limitations mainly the 8 sec., f/8 cap, but it's useful in a lot of situations. High Res mode, 5-axis IBIS and the plethora of excellent lenses makes M43 one of the best well-rounded small cameras available!

    A couple examples:
    28954671842_4f62724118_b.
    la_skyline
    by Jonathan Friolo, on Flickr

    32170410785_97890a055c_b.
    170107_DTLA_Night_FRIOLO_001
    by Jonathan Friolo, on Flickr

    31320231950_0977ed85ed_b.
    dtla_02
    by Jonathan Friolo, on Flickr
     
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  16. DoofClenas

    DoofClenas Who needs a Mirror! Subscribing Member

    Nov 9, 2012
    Traverse City, MI
    Clint
    I can't stand ov3...and you're right, the conversion of the 80m raws result in a massive tif file. Therefore I've decided to just shoot with high Rez jpg only...and if needed, just edit that file. Yes I understand that I loose detail, but since I'm on a tripod at that point I'm already slowing down my process, and therefore my exposure is usually spot on. At that point I decide whether or not I need to bracket +/- 1 to 1.5 outside of normal exposure. Then I merge those in LR to make a realistic HDR (ish) type image. I'd rather do that (which sounds like a lot, but really it's not) and stay in LR. Once they start supporting it, I'll go back to raw.
     
  17. b_rubenstein

    b_rubenstein Mu-43 All-Pro

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    Melbourne, FL
    Neither do I, and I don't care.
     
  18. Giiba

    Giiba Something to someone somewhere

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    Moooooaaaar cropping!

    :speechless:
     
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  19. I can not wait to get one of the new EM1 mark 2s just for that reason. Because I like taking landscape photos. Huge and better quality files allows you to crop better. Really not interested in the A7rII for a number of reasons. Love the way the EM1 handles, how fast it is and the size of the lenses.
     
  20. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, USA
    You guys are funny, I have large prints using high res mode and you can definitely see the difference when going big. If all you're doing is posting to Facebook, perhaps 4mp is all most people need! :p
     
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