SLR Magic 12mm 1.6+14-140mm or 12-35mm 2.8

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by Kenny, Apr 16, 2013.

  1. Kenny

    Kenny Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 9, 2012
    KL Malaysia
    Currently I have 14mm 2.5 and 45mm 1.8. Im planning to buy new lenses mainly for video purposes. I will keep both the 14 and 45 for portability and portrait.

    So my question is, which of these option is the best bang of the buck?

    I currently have gh1 and I want the best/decent lens/lenses for traveling and also for shooting in low light. Keep in mind that Im probably gonna buy BMC pocket camera down the road which has around 2.6-2.8 crop factor. Thus, 12mm is equivalent to approximation 31.2-33.6mm FF equivalence. 12mm end could be my all around focal length. IS also play an important role here for run and gun situation.

    The price for used SLR Magic 12mm is around usd400-450
    14-140mm used is around usd430-450
    and
    12-35mm used is around usd900-950

    So the prices are nearly the same. You guys are also welcome to suggest me other options.
     
  2. oldracer

    oldracer Mu-43 All-Pro

    Oct 1, 2010
    USA
    for travel, my experience is that the 140mm focal length is extremely valuable. I would not travel with 35mm as my maximum.

    My kit is: 12/f2, 9-18, 14-140. Add 100-300 for wildlife-oriented trips.
     
  3. Kenny

    Kenny Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 9, 2012
    KL Malaysia
    Thanks. But how about the sharpness of 14-140mm for video? I dont plan to use this for low light, just for daylight shooting.
     
  4. oldracer

    oldracer Mu-43 All-Pro

    Oct 1, 2010
    USA
    I know nothing about video, but it is certainly adequately sharp for stills. I'm sure if one was heavily cropping a prime would be better but (a) I rarely crop and (b) with a zoom there is much less need for cropping because you can usually get it right when you take the shot.
     
  5. arson519

    arson519 Mu-43 Regular

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    Feb 10, 2013
    Canada
    heres a video shot with the lens
    [ame=http://vimeo.com/58739437]Private Video on Vimeo[/ame]

    password: test

    judge for yourself how sharp it is i think it looks great but its also hacked gh2
     
  6. yamark

    yamark Mu-43 Regular

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    May 23, 2012
    Kentucky
    I use my 45mm for video OFTEN! I also love using legacy glass for vids.
     
  7. ~tc~

    ~tc~ Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Oct 22, 2010
    Houston, TX
    The 12-35/2.8 is easily the best image quality, but it may not be noticeable at the lower video resolution (let's face it - it's hard to see it in high resolution stills unless heavily cropped and magnified)

    Functionally, the 12-35 would allow you to do zoom pulls with constant exposure due to its (relatively) constant aperture. None of your other proposals allow for that.
     
  8. davidp158

    davidp158 New to Mu-43

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    Dec 1, 2011
    nice footage

    I have the 14-140 Panny lens, and find that its plenty sharp for video. Its not very fast, so its limited, but the stabilization works very well, and it is silent.

    Where was this footage shot? Abandoned buildings intrigue me.

     
  9. Kenny

    Kenny Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 9, 2012
    KL Malaysia
    Love it too. I cant seem to find many legacy wide angle lenses.
     
  10. Kenny

    Kenny Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 9, 2012
    KL Malaysia
    This lens is extremely sharp. No doubt on that. But I heard that this lens has no constant aperture when zooming while recording video?
     
  11. Kenny

    Kenny Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 9, 2012
    KL Malaysia
    Nice video. Yeah, it is sharp during good lighting.
     
  12. Kenny

    Kenny Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 9, 2012
    KL Malaysia
    Thanks guys for all the replies. I did some reading, and found mixed review regarding 12mm 1.6 and 14-140mm. Some says the 12mm is not that sharp and flares badly below f2. Some say the 14-140mm is unusable above 70mm. However, there are also review that praises these two lenses by saying that 12mm is a CINE lens, so the image produce has the "film look", while the 14-140mm is a must have for run and gun videographer.

    For the 12-35mm, some say that, the only main problem is the jumping aperture while zooming and the range is too short.

    So back to my main question, which set up is the best bang of the buck??
     
  13. ~tc~

    ~tc~ Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Oct 22, 2010
    Houston, TX
    Even with the stutter, the exposure is a lot more consistent than a variable aperture.
     
  14. RDM

    RDM Mu-43 All-Pro

    It has been a while and I am curious.. What did you end up getting?
     
  15. davidp158

    davidp158 New to Mu-43

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    Dec 1, 2011
    The 14-140 is a good lens in good light, has image stabilization, and they are readily available used for reasonable prices. It is not incredibly sharp for stills, but very usable for video. I have less moire issues with the 14-140 than I do with the 12-35. Good bang for the buck.

    The 12-35 has better image quality and is somewhat faster, with better focus speed and good stabilization, but cost substantially more than the 14-140 and offers much shorter range. I only experience noticeable aperture shift with fast zooms (which look silly to me, so I never do it). With slower zooms, the exposure is very consistent. The 12-35 is a better lens overall than the 14-140, but depending on your shooting needs and budget it may not fall into your "best bang for the buck" definition.

    If the 12-35mm range is too limiting, you could consider the Lumix 35-100. Combined with the 12-35, you would have a great amount of range, albeit somewhat expensive lenses. Yes, these two lenses come at a cost, but they would cover a wide range of shooting situations.





     
  16. nardoleo

    nardoleo Mu-43 Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2013
    Singapore
    Leo
    I would recommend the pana 12-35mm. The constant aperture you get as you zoom will come in really handy.