I had to post this under a new thread....this is the reason i always come back to M43 Last i was using was nikon D7000 and sigma 28 f1.8...now oly E P5 with panny 20mm f1.7 output was virtually identical to my liking! Guess i dont need to tell you all why i got fed up of nikon...Not only was it bigger / heavier and off putting to everyone around. I hated the look on some face's at any park ...even though i was with my own child!...Big black cams and lenses shout pro or perv! gets even worse when you go telephoto! Ep5 doesnt get a glance...only by those who know cams anyway. Happy christmas Scott.