Showcase Sigma 50-500 f4-6.3 APO DG HSM 4/3's Mount aka Bigma

Discussion in 'Adapted Lens Sample Image Showcase' started by Phocal, Feb 21, 2017.

  1. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer

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  2. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 3, 2014
    Here are my first photos from it. Terrible shooting conditions (it was the first chance I had to get out with it) and not the best bird to test a lens on but he was all I could find. These birds have some strange feathers that don't have a lot of fine detail, they almost look as if they have a sheen of oil on them, but I will throw up two shots of this bird. I was resting the lens on a railing of the pier I was on, so not handheld but also not locked into a tripod..........pretty typical of how I shoot. First photo will be wide-open at 500mm and the second will be stopped down 2/3 of a stop to f8.

    You can click thru for full resolution samples on Flickr.

    Oh, shots where taken with my preliminary micro focus adjust of -1

    EM1 w/ Sigma 50-500 - 500mm @ ISO 250, 1/1000 @ f6.3
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    f6.3
    by RRcoleJR Photography, on Flickr

    EM1 w/ Sigma 50-500 - 500mm @ ISO 400, 1/1250 @ f8.0
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    f8.0
    by RRcoleJR Photography, on Flickr

    Looking at his beak and eye area, it seems pretty sharp to me. Hard to tell about the feathers and rest of the images because of the bird, wish I could have found a Great Blue Heron. Shooting a black bird against water with a bright sun on it is not a good way to test a lens.

    Edit - I didn't see an CA in any of my shots. Several people in my many conversations over the last few days have mentioned it. I have a number of shots that I would have suspected to see it if it is as bad as I was led to believe. Will have to shoot a white bird in bright sun I guess to see how bad it really is.
     
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  3. Nam-in-Sonoma

    Nam-in-Sonoma Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Nam
    Like I said on Facebook...I like my copy that I picked up here from this forum...might have to post some of my pictures here :)
    As for the AF, I think it is slower than the Olympus 50-200mm.
    Your pictures look great.
     
  4. narkotix

    narkotix Mu-43 Regular

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    i have the newer version with a canon mount using a kipon adapter. Works pretty good and focuses fast (in good light) but one thing I have noticed that at 500mm its somewhat blurry. Up to 300mm it outperforms the 4/3rds 70-300mm olympus lens. It looks to exhibit the same issue with the 4/3rds version as well At other resolutions its perfectly fine.

    I put a sample pic here taken at ~100mm
    We need more horses in this forum (Image Thread)

    I have found that the OS seems to work better than ibis at longer resolutions but its definitely not a handheld lens
     
  5. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 3, 2014
    Thanks.

    You should. I had never looked for images from this lens because it was never really on my radar, no people posting photos with it in any of the forums I go to. Then I happened on it for what I thought was a really great price. I had used the Sigma 150-500 on my Canon when a I borrowed it from a friend at an airshow and I was pretty happy with the shots from it. So I bought the lens, then starting to research it...............I know, should have researched first but I had never seen one for sale and was afraid it would get sold. Come to find out, the reviews say it was better then the 150-500.........so I am hoping for good things from it. I have not used it enough to determine how it performs focus wise to my other two lenses. Hopefully this weekend I will be able to give it a good test, one that includes using the TC's. Will find some stationary stuff so if I need to I can manual focus, no idea how far it is off with the TC's.
     
  6. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 3, 2014
    Nice image.

    I am hoping to get to shoot at various focal lengths this weekend but I honestly only got it for the 400+ range. Also want to compare say 500mm without a TC to 500mm with the EC-14 and EC-20. These TC's are amazing and it may work out that if I use say the EC-14 but only go to 350, I would be at 490mm............would it be a better shot because the lens performs much better at 350 then 500 and the TC is good enough to still make it a better shot. While I would love to throw the EC-14 on and be shooting at 1400mm, I am pretty sure the IQ will not stand up. But, if I back the lens off I may get to 1000mm with better IQ or even push it out to 1200mm.

    I found the IBIS more then satisfactory actually. I don't need super slow shutter speeds..............honestly I don't know how often I would ever make real use of the sync IS with the 300/4. I can already shoot 1/200ish with my 150/2 and EC-20, any lower and the movement of my subjects is going to cause blur.............I don't need lower then that.
     
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  7. macro

    macro Mu-43 Veteran

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    I'll wait until I see more from you Ron. Knowing you, you will squeeze the poor resolution daylights out of it yet !! ;) Probably hear it scream from here mate. Going to be interesting once you get up and rolling with it Ronnie. Looking forward to it.

    All the best and congrats.

    Danny.
     
  8. Speedliner

    Speedliner Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

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    Rob
    If you were a nuclear physicist we'd have cold fusion by now ... and pictures of glowing gators.
     
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  9. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 3, 2014
    Thanks Danny. This is turning into a project lens for me, just to see what I can squeeze out of a lens. I know it is not as sharp as my 150/2 and I don't expect it to be, I do hope and honestly expect it to be as good as my 50-200 w/ EC-20. The other thing that just bugs the living shit out of me is all the "lab" testing I have seen (like at LensTip) they shoot some building using 50mm from 10's of 10's of 10's of yards away and then zoom in to 500mm. I would never shoot a telephoto lens like that, except to get a quick photo to ID something from a distance. Funny thing is, I see 100's of people a year standing there with any of the various consumer grade super zooms taking photos of birds from stupid far distances then see them posting photos in the "Birds of Texas" Facebook group. They have cropped the crap out of the photos (because they took the photo from 100 yards away) and then blame the lens for not being good enough..............I just don't get it.

    I did look up LensTip's charts and stuff (something I seldom do or pay much attention to, prefer photos from the field) and the lens does appear to drop in IQ after 300mm. Funny thing is at 500mm wide-open it is noticeably worse then the new 150-600 Sport at 600mm, but stopped down to f8 (which is only 2/3 of a stop) and they are almost identical. The drop in IQ after 300mm is what has me wondering about staying around the 300mm but using TC's to get more reach. I know a lot of people would say it will not work, but the IQ of the 4/3 TC's is beyond any other manufacture in my opinion. They built them with the same no IQ compromise as they did the SHG lenses, and it shows........just look at my 50-200 SWD w/ EC-20 results (then again the 50-200 does test very well by LensTip).

    Regardless it is going to be fun playing with this and seeing what I can do with it.

    :rofl: I have actually thought about picking up a 3rd degree in physics after I am done with my PhD in math.
     
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  10. macro

    macro Mu-43 Veteran

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    Ha :) I'll just quote that part for a minute Ron :)

    Just yesterday in the beginners forum at DPR was a guy giving advice ...... you will love this one mate.

    You don't need AF at all, you just set your lens on infinity and take BIF shots 200 - 300 feet away !!. :026: :hiding:

    So that was his advice to a beginner !!!

    Yeah okay. LOL. I'm never quite sure if I should laugh or cry Ron. Good advice I guess, ha. So just set it on infinity and see how you get on. I keep saying it, we don't buy long tele lenses to take shots from a long way out, they are used for close range shots to get the subject larger in the frame. Cropping you can only go so far, after that its just taking shots of a junk pile.

    All the best Ron and that post did make me smile at the time. BTW, turns out the guy was using a bridge camera, super zoom or whatever they are called now days.

    Danny.
     
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  11. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 3, 2014
    I try once to help people like that but most times they don't want it..........I just shake my head and move on, it's not worth wasting the time to write a reply when they don't want to hear it.
     
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  13. narkotix

    narkotix Mu-43 Regular

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    Awesome photo! Out of curiosity how far were you from the subject?
     
  14. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 3, 2014
    Thanks and I was approximately 24 feet from the duck according to exif.

    I am only trying to put good shots in the showcase thread but I am documenting my journey with the lens in another thread where I give most of the details behind the shot if you are interested - The Adventures of Bigma

    FYI, the next set of shots I am posting are from a distance of about 55 feet.
     
  15. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 3, 2014
    Lots of talk on the internet about this lens having a CA problem. So I went out yesterday on a cloudless day at 1pm to find a subject and test this out. If it was going to show it would have shown up on the white of this Great Blue Heron and in over 800 shots and I saw no evidence of it.

    EM1 w/ Bigma - 228mm, ISO 400, 1/1000 @ f8.0, Tripod
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    Bigma 228mm
    by RRcoleJR Photography, on Flickr

    EM1 w/ Bigma - 363mm, ISO 400, 1/1000 @ f8.0, Tripod
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    Bigma 363mm
    by RRcoleJR Photography, on Flickr

    EM1 w/ Bigma - 500mm, ISO 320, 1/1000 @ f8.0, Tripod
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    Bigma 500mm 001
    by RRcoleJR Photography, on Flickr

    EM1 w/ Bigma - 500mm, ISO 400, 1/1250 @ f8.0, Tripod
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    Bigma 500mm 002
    by RRcoleJR Photography, on Flickr

    EM1 w/ Bigma - 500mm, ISO 400, 1/1250 @ f8.0, Tripod
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    Bigma 500mm 003
    by RRcoleJR Photography, on Flickr

    You can click thru to Flickr for full resolution samples
     
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  16. narkotix

    narkotix Mu-43 Regular

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    I think you and others are right with the distance. A lot of my targets were 30-100m's away. I`ll try to get closer next time!
     
  17. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 3, 2014
    This lens is not sharp like the Olympus top of the line lenses so you need to be closer with the subject at least filling half the frame if not more. I will typically shoot this at 50 feet or less, unless it's something really big like a bear or moose.
     
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  18. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 3, 2014
    Some shots from today

    EM1 w/ Sigma 50-500 - 500mm, ISO 400, 1/2000 @ f8.0, Handheld
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    GBH Meal 01
    by RRcoleJR Photography, on Flickr

    EM1 w/ Sigma 50-500 - 500mm, ISO 400, 1/2000 @ f8.0, Handheld
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    GBH Meal 02
    by RRcoleJR Photography, on Flickr

    EM1 w/ Sigma 50-500 - 500mm, ISO 400, 1/2000 @ f8.0, Handheld
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    GBH Meal 03
    by RRcoleJR Photography, on Flickr

    EM1 w/ Sigma 50-500 - 500mm, ISO 400, 1/2000 @ f8.0, Handheld
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    GBH Meal 04
    by RRcoleJR Photography, on Flickr

    EM1 w/ Sigma 50-500 - 500mm, ISO 400, 1/2000 @ f8.0, Handheld
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    GBH Meal 05
    by RRcoleJR Photography, on Flickr

    Next shot is wide-open

    EM1 w/ Sigma 50-500 - 500mm, ISO 400, 1/2000 @ f6.3, Handheld
    32983478262_8369720863_h. GBH Wide-Open by RRcoleJR Photography, on Flickr
     
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  19. rloewy

    rloewy Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

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    Ron
    These are fantastic
     
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  20. SVQuant

    SVQuant Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

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    Sameer
    Great captures. Especially love GBH Meal 05.

    The problem with @Phocal@Phocal's images is that they give me ideas about how much better mine would be if I bought the same lenses, but ...
     
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