Show NON creamy bokeh: bubbles, doughnuts, squares... all the weird bokeh

Discussion in 'Other Genres' started by gnarlydog australia, May 15, 2016.

  1. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2015
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    Damiano Visocnik
    I was looking at the "Creamy bokeh" thread and I noticed a few images that I would not call exactly creamy. Creamy to me implies a certain soft/dreamy nature of the defocused background and foreground. Not all lenses render the out of focus areas in the same way and certainly not all of them are creamy. Often modern lenses have a neutral bokeh, or a nervous one, only some are creamy. Vintage adapted lenses can have creamy bokeh but often also can give bubbles in speckled highlights.
    While it's difficult to describe in words a look of a certain bokeh, I think here would be a good place to show something that you regard NOT creamy.
    Let's see bubbles, squares, doughnuts and all the weird bokeh that make some people cringe and other amazed. It's all in the eye of the beholder, right? :thumbup:

    I will kick off with this from a Pentax-110 50mm f2.8

    25748652860_24a999acf1_b. Beer o'clock_c by gnarlydog, on Flickr
     
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  2. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2015
    Brisbane, Australia
    Damiano Visocnik
    a classic example of bokeh balls from speckled highlights rendered by a Helios 44
    The lens was sold to me from Russia (eBayer PhotoMoscow) as Helios 44-7 but it was a fake 44-7; it was just a 44 dressed up as 44-7. It just isn't as sharp but the bubbles are there :)

    23609955360_d1d4373bb2_b. Magpie feeding time_c by gnarlydog, on Flickr
     
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  3. palombasso

    palombasso Mu-43 Regular

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  4. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2015
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    Damiano Visocnik
    a very nice example of what happens to the round bokeh "balls" when the lens is stopped down
    suddenly we have "soccer balls' " pattern :thumbsup:
     
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  5. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Damiano Visocnik
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  6. GRID

    GRID Mu-43 All-Pro

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    Soapbubbles! Meyer - optik Görlitz Trioplan 1:2.8 /100 Exacta
    Trioplan100mmF28_02_.

    Trioplan100mmF28_04_.
     
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  7. EdH

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  8. flamingfish

    flamingfish Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Emily
    Great thread!
     
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  9. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2015
    Brisbane, Australia
    Damiano Visocnik
    The Trioplan 100mm has such clean beautiful soap bubbles, but it costs so much :( I always wanted one..

    I wanted the big bubbles too so I sourced a very (extremely) cheap lens that I was hoping would give me bubbles.
    A projection lens from a Kodak Carousel seems to work, but the bubbles are different, not so distinct and sharp
    Kodak Ektanar C 102mm f2.8 (bought for $6)

    27069827545_c1cc081f08_b. Soap bubbles over ivy_c by gnarlydog, on Flickr
     
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  10. WendyK

    WendyK Super Moderator

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    Wendy
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    Harvey Melvin Richards Photo Posting Junkie

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  12. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2015
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    Damiano Visocnik
    ah, is that how the M.Zuiko 300mm f4 renders the bokeh? semi-creamy but a bit nervous... of course, at this distance and this subject/background separation
    In your Flikr upload you have it in the MC-14TC album; it that correct? can you recall the f-stop?
     
  13. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2015
    Brisbane, Australia
    Damiano Visocnik
    It was the M.Zuiko 75mm f1.8 that started my quest for "bubbles". It was not my lens but in one weekend I used it I realized I wanted more. Your bubbles from the Zuiko are very nice, better than what I could get. I think I didn't know yet that speckled highlights are the trick to good bubbles :)
     
  14. longviewer

    longviewer Mu-43 Regular

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    Jim R
    Mmm - donuts :) followed by the same 300mm mirror lens = too much coffee :laugh:

    K50J4250.JPG K50J4252.JPG
     
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  15. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Damiano Visocnik
    what lens? mirror you say...
     
  16. WendyK

    WendyK Super Moderator

    Feb 28, 2014
    Northern Virginia
    Wendy
    Both of those pics were taken when the sun came out just before sunset after a day of rain, providing backlighting for all the water droplets. I saw it through the window and grabbed the camera. It was a pretty magical moment that only lasted about 7 or 8 minutes before the sun went down.
     
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  17. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2015
    Brisbane, Australia
    Damiano Visocnik
    I have been seen walking around with a spritz bottle (repurposed pump-action sunscreen mist-spraying bottle) and wet the plants on a low setting sun :coco:.
    It kind of works for real close ups but I would need a bigger bottle for large scenes.
    I carried one on a 3 day backpacking trip where I knew the dew would have evaporated way before I would get to some nice subjects (it's pretty dry here in Australia)
    Meyer Optik Trioplan 50mm f2.9 @f2.9
    21107000134_cd9b4e6518_b. Tiny flowers_2 by gnarlydog, on Flickr
     
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  18. Harvey Melvin Richards

    Harvey Melvin Richards Photo Posting Junkie

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    Southwest Utah
    It was f/6.3. And with the MC-14. I was at my bird pond and closing in on a bird when I saw these wild grain? stalks. I have got some weird bokeh with this lens, but after using the 40-150 f/2.8 a ton, I kind of expect it.


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  19. longviewer

    longviewer Mu-43 Regular

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    Jim R
    This is the Spiratone 300mm f/5.6 T-mount adapted. I've since added a smaller Quantaray mirror, also 300/5.6 - must run a dual test one of these days! :)
     
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  20. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2015
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    Damiano Visocnik
    a bokeh that defies all aesthetics?
    using an optical block that has been harvested from a vintage 110 film pocket (Canon 110ED) camera and reversed
    only the very centre of the image circle is almost sharp, the rest is just fuzzy and swirly

    26991699186_f2823cd013_b. The moment the genie left the bottle by gnarlydog, on Flickr
     
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