Shooting B & W

BillN

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When you want B & W - do you shoot colour and convert in Photoshop or similar

or do you shoot B & W straight out of the camera

is there any differences in quality etc., etc, or is B & W just a desaturated colour image

cheers
 

Brian Mosley

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Hi Bill,

I shoot raw and use Lightzone for B&W conversion - our next workshop will heavily feature B&W conversion... should be a great opportunity to share & learn.

Cheers

Brian
 

ahuyevshi

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I mostly shoot RAW... I have been playing with some of the art filters, but I still find that my B&W conversion works much better...

I think the in camera monotone is just a zero saturation. The Grainy film filter adds contrast and noise to it.. However I have tried using the monotone color effect just to be able to see the shot in B&W in the EVF while composing.
 

Brian Mosley

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The Oly E-P1/2 has colour filters you can apply to in-cam jpegs... red, yellow, orange and possibly green by memory.

Cheers

Brian
 

Pelao

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I shoot RAW, then, if an image looks like a good BW candidate, in Lightroom run a one-click conversion (takes less than a second). If it looks OK then I go back to the original colour and convert within LR and or with the Silver Effex plugin.
 

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Bill,
I do raw only. It is my intention to do B&W. So if I make a color image, it was a new discovery for me. I don't see/like color.
Ok, there are many ways to convert to B&W but....
it all depends on how well your color image is.

I bring the image into LR, make it look as good as I can in a color image..then use Silver Effex either in LR or in PS.

If you can swing Silver Effex, I urge you to do so.
There is a free trial available here....
http://www.niksoftware.com/site/

Once you try it, you'll rest assured knowing that you can convert anything you want.
 

kevinparis

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OK.. i thought i had posted a response.. but must have got distracted and clicked another window before posting

i shoot RAW... have the LCD on the cameras showing B/W

Raw processing is in Aperture... with occasional trips to Silver FX

K
 

rst

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I shoot raw and then have my own presets in Lightroom. But if I go out and plan ahead to do B&W I just use B&W film. That is the easiest conversion for me :wink:

Cheers
rst
 

Amin Sabet

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Like Kevin, I usually set the camera to shoot RAW and show me B&W on the screen/EVF. That's one of the nice things about MFT. A DSLR OVF won't show you B&W.

is there any differences in quality etc., etc, or is B & W just a desaturated colour image
The main difference between shooting color and converting to B&W vs shooting in-camera B&W is that converting from color gives you options in how individual colors are handled in the B&W conversion. Our cameras may give us a few "filters" to choose from, but it's nice to be able to make those decisions after the fact, plus there are more options that way. Lightroom lets you tweak each color. For example, in a single image I might assign aqua to a bright tone in order to have a bright tropical sea while assigning blue to a dark tone for a more dramatic sky, all the while previewing the effect of these changes on the conversion.
 

bebrox

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Jpeg for me on the G1

I shoot jpeg for B&W as the G1's Dynamic B&W is what I am looking for, that was the reason I bought the LX3, I was enthused that Panasonic had incorporated it into the G1.

I like that I don't have to spend time in P&P afterwards, sometimes I prefer that that the process has been taken out of my hands as I am never completely satisfied/convinced that my P&P is quite 'there' with B&W.
 

Iansky

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Hi Bill,

I always shoot Raw, convert using ACR in photoshop and once I am happy with the colour version I use Nik Silver Effex to convert to B&W, it is probably the best dedicated B&W conversion tool I have personally ever used and it embeds into Photoshop easily and smoothly.
 
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