Samyang 10mm f/2.8

Discussion in 'Micro 4/3 News and Rumors' started by Edmunds, Aug 30, 2013.

  1. Edmunds

    Edmunds Mu-43 Regular

    Oct 16, 2012
    Looks like we're gonna be getting a native mount 10mm f/2.8 lens from Samyang.

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    Of course, this is an APS-C lens, which means that APS-C mirrorless are gonna get a 15mm equivalent lens, but still 10mm @ f/2.8 on m4/3 looks nice. It is one hell of a heavy thing, though, not sure if its practical.
  2. Faceinthecrowd

    Faceinthecrowd Mu-43 Regular

    Apr 29, 2011

    Wow. So effectively 20mm m43.

    Wow if this is decently priced it could be a nice wide low light lens.
  3. darosk

    darosk Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Apr 17, 2013
    Kota Kinabalu, Malaysia
    Very cool. I'm interested. I've been wanting a wider prime than my 14 - fisheye lenses don't interest me and the Oly 12 is out of my budget. If the price is right on this one... (and most Samyang's are)
  4. hunyuan7

    hunyuan7 Mu-43 Regular

    Aug 31, 2011
    I hope it is priced like its fisheye ($200 - 280). It is about time a company will be coming out with an ultra wide prime for m4/3. Now when is it coming out?:confused:
  5. fin azvandi

    fin azvandi Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 12, 2011
    South Bend, IN
    filter size = none ?
  6. monk3y

    monk3y Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 14, 2013
    in The Cloud...
    If it's designed for that FL I bet it will have a bulbous front element.

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  7. pen2omd

    pen2omd Mu-43 Regular

    Jul 29, 2013
    Perfect for the SB

    It's a manual lenses anyway so Nikon mount instead and SB...

    10mm f/2.8 once speed boosted give you 7.1mm @ f/2.0
    for a FF FoV of 14.2mm now we are talking!
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  8. meyerweb

    meyerweb Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Sep 5, 2011
    I'll stick with my 7-14. Not as fast, perhaps, but it AFs.
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  9. krixoff

    krixoff Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jul 11, 2013
    It should replace my 14mm with wide converter dmw-gwc1 !
  10. Liamness

    Liamness Mu-43 Veteran

    Apr 20, 2011
    Here's the list of mounts according to that link:

    "Canon EOS, Canon M, Nikon, Pentax, Sony, Sony-E, FUJIFILM X, Samsung NX, Four-thirds, Micro Four-thrids"

    Surely that can't be right.
  11. carpandean

    carpandean Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Oct 29, 2010
    Western NY
    Even worse, it's for APS-C DSLRs, so all mirrorless versions basically have built in open space between the original lens and the mirrorless mount (notice the lengths from 76.7 - 105.5mm.) As such, it will be terribly balanced on a mirrorless body. There's an approximately 30g, 30mm adapter built into the back of the lens with a 710g lens hanging off of the end.

    See above.
  12. krixoff

    krixoff Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jul 11, 2013
    Is it a 10mm for Apc-c or FF ?

    What is the correct focal for mu43?
  13. carpandean

    carpandean Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Oct 29, 2010
    Western NY
    It's 10mm focal length on any mount. Technically, it is designed to cover an APS-C sensor, not FF, but that doesn't change how it would look on :43:. It will have the save field of view as a 20mm on a FF or approx. 13mm on APS-C.
  14. meyerweb

    meyerweb Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Sep 5, 2011
    Why not? It will be completely manual, so it doesn't need to interface with any electronics. The only thing that needs to change is the depth of the rear lens assembly and the mount itself. But this means it'll be large for an m43 lens, since it will be designed to cover at least an APS-C image circle, and maybe even a 35m image circle.

    10mm is 10mm, whether it's mounted to a Pentax Q or an 8x10 view camera (of course, the image circle won't cover 8x10, but that's a separate issue). The focal length of a lens doesn't change based on the sensor or film size.

    The angle of view changes. A 10mm lens on m43 has approximately half the angle of view of a 10mm lens on 35mm FF. So when mounted to an m43 or 4/3 camera, this will have an angle of view approximately equal to a 20mm lens on a FF DSLR. When mounted to an APS-C camera, it will have an angle of view equal to about 15mm (Nikon, Pentax, Sony) or 16mm (Canon) lens on a FF DSLR.
  15. RevBob

    RevBob Super Moderator

    Jun 4, 2011
    NorthWestern PA
    Manual focus doesn't bother me, I remember when autofocus didn't exist. The size concerns me a bit, but if the price is right I'll go for it. I can't afford the 7-14 or the 9-18 - I'd love a less expensive 10mm.
  16. meyerweb

    meyerweb Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Sep 5, 2011
    I started shooting way before AF existed, too. But my eyes aren't quite as sharp as they used to be....

  17. MarylandUSA

    MarylandUSA Mu-43 Veteran

    Jul 3, 2013
    Poolesville, Maryland
    Paul Franklin Stregevsky
    But why does Samyang seem to feel that IF I'm OK without AF THEN I must also be OK without electronically coupled exposure and EXIF data?

    It concerns me a lot. 710 to 740g? Imagine the weight of an all-Samyang kit in native M43 mount: The 10, 14, 24, 35, 85.

    I was hoping for an f/4 and truly native "designed for M43" glass, like the stellar Samyang fisheye. Between the high cost and the unacceptable weight, I can easily pass on this lens. The Panasonic 14/2.5 with a 0.79x or 0.75x adapter is looking more attractive.
  18. Cruzan80

    Cruzan80 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Aug 23, 2012
    Denver, Co
    Sean Rastsmith
    I find it humorous that after everyone complaining about there not being a prime wider than 12, and it being so expensive, that all of these problems are now "dealbreakers". I remember several people being like "If there was only a 10mm or wider prime, I would totally drop all of these other lenses". Did we really think we would get a m4/3 only design?

    All you have to do to get EXIF is get a dandelion chip, program it to that and glue it onto the back. $25 solution.
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  19. MarylandUSA

    MarylandUSA Mu-43 Veteran

    Jul 3, 2013
    Poolesville, Maryland
    Paul Franklin Stregevsky
    Yes. We got such a fisheye lens from this very lens maker.
  20. inkista

    inkista Mu-43 Veteran

    Jan 13, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    Exactly. Isn't anybody else thinking....


    Samyang has made:
    full-frame => 14 f/2.8
    APS-C => 10/2.8

    So maybe they'll make:
    mirrorless => 7mm or 8mm/2.8?

    Given that they do the APS-C 8mm f/3.5 fisheye and the mft 7.5mm f/3.5 fisheye and the NEX/Fuji X 8mm f/2.8 fisheye, which are clearly derived from the mft design... I think Samyang knows the market is there for lenses designed specifically for mirrorless.