All said and done, Pentax is seriously bleeding and Samsung seem to have gone their own way. The Japanese and Koreans have always had a tenuous relationship and I read somewhere (Thom Hogan?) suggesting that this is the fork in the road for that relationship. Pentax seems to be on their own and where are they going?I agree with a lot of the points Ray raised, but Pentax has done really well with their K-x, it is a very good small SLR at a cracking price, it produces some great images and seems to be the best APS-C sized sensor for low light - if they revamped their whole range with developments they made with the K-x over the K-m then they (IMO) could do really well.
But now that Samsung has it's NX system, I wonder if there's any co-operation between the two companies? If not the m4/3rds system could really help them.
on a side note I was just thinking that if the NX10 handled noise as good as the K-x, m4/3 would really b in trouble ;-) Finally who's to say Pentax won't join Samsung's NX system? that really would heat up the mirrorless camera wars ;-)
I forgot about the Pentax 110 line, but in reality, that's a bit like the Pen F line of lenses, how many of us would have clamoured for a re-introduction of those if it were possible? I would have gladly filled my kit with all and sundry Pen F lenses, but unfortunately, we are now held to ransom by a small group of ebay sellers. Heck, buying Leica lenses is a cheaper option!Pentax has been making lenses with image circles equivalent to micro four thirds longer than anyone , by that im referring to the 18 2.8 ,24 2.8 50 2.8 ,70 2.8 and the 20-40 2.8 aspherical the primes are commendably tiny the 24 is literally the size of a Pepsi bottle cap
that Pentax created for the line of 110 SLR cameras made about 30 years ago
i for one would love to see pentax get in to the micro 4\3 lens game, but then again im still waiting for sigma tamron tokina,and esp voightlander to realize the validity of , and design for this new format .
Ray,All said and done, Pentax is seriously bleeding and Samsung seem to have gone their own way. The Japanese and Koreans have always had a tenuous relationship and I read somewhere (Thom Hogan?) suggesting that this is the fork in the road for that relationship. Pentax seems to be on their own and where are they going?
Presumably they would not be abandoning ASP-C or trying to use their current lenses on m4/3 cameras, but introducing m4/3 cameras and lenses of their own. I would love to see this happen, though I kind of doubt it too.Edit: forgot to comment on the discussion at hand! I seriously doubt this would happen. Primarily, most of Pentax's lenses are screwdrive which would not at all be compatible with the m4/3 mount - well, it seems it would be a pretty big engineering feat to put a motordrive into an adapter that could run the screw pin. The SDM lenses could be worked, but that is only a handful of current Pentax lenses. They are very strongly committed to aps-c too; its all just rumor anyway but who knows, my guess is they won't be joining the m4/3 standard.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that there's vitriol towards Pentax, especially from my comments. I merely stated a few facts about where Pentax stands at the moment; they make great products, but that isn't translating into major market inroads. I'd like it if Pentax were to join m4/3s, they be able to bring a lot to the table, but that may never happen.Ray,
As a Pentax and m4/3 user, I am surprised to hear the same vitriol about Pentax here as I do about m4/3 over at pentaxforums.
Your 1st sentence I quoted is IMHO very true ; I sold myself my Pentax dslr the day after I got my E-P1, because my first couple of pictures told me that I wouldn't use it any more. Yes, in pure IQ terms, the Pentax was a bit better, but nothing that would matter until a 60x40 cm blowup. At least. Maybe more. But I reckon I'm pretty much an exception.Specifications still sell and the forums are full of posters that use 43/m43 but still reference to their FF camera and the IQ a camera they rarely use in fact on account of the sheer bulk.
m43 has it all but its not setting the camera world on fire.
It's all good, I found the bleeding comment to much stronger than intended I guess! While it would be great for Pentax, they are inherently a (relatively) small, niche camera maker - with the last couple of camera releases they seem to be finding their footing more and more - they certainly won't ever be the synonymous camera name they were long ago, but they'll be around a long time making great products under the headings of rugged, cheap and features out the wazzoo.I'm not sure where you got the idea that there's vitriol towards Pentax, especially from my comments. I merely stated a few facts about where Pentax stands at the moment; they make great products, but that isn't translating into major market inroads. I'd like it if Pentax were to join m4/3s, they be able to bring a lot to the table, but that may never happen.
If Pentax will come with lenses then I think they will also come with camera's. But will they come with camera's?If pentax could make mFT lenses, than I think that would be great. We need more lenses, and since they use sensor IS, then their lenses woudl be perfect for OLY products, as well as panasonic if IS is not of concern.