i just thought I'd add this little tid bit to the discussion (such as it is). I've been religiously checking GetOlympus every morning in hopes of picking up a Refurb 75/1.8. Finally on May28, I got lucky. (of so I thought) it showed up listed as in stock. I quickly ordered it and then sat back to wait for it. Checked my account and it showed the order complete, and shipping as ground. No tracking info though, so finally I called today to check its tracking. i didn't want it to show up with signature required and not be home, Well, not to worry. It hasn't shipped and as a mater of fact, they don't even have it in stock. No explanation, Basically told me they can't ship something they don't have but they'd be happy to cancel my order. Nice!