Recover original 4:3 frame in Aperture

[CCRoo]

I apologize if this has been addressed elsewhere. Creating good search terms is an art that eludes me.

How do I use Aperture to recover the full 4:3 sensor image for a photograph I took with the aspect ratio set at 3:2?

Thanks!

 

[kevinparis]

I think if you shot JPEG only then you are out of luck... let me go a do a quick test

K

 

[gpburdell]

Did you shoot in RAW mode or RAW+JPEG or just JPEG only?
If JPEG only I suspect you're SOL regardless of which program you're using.

 

[kevinparis]

hmm

just did a quick test... I thought RAW allowed you to get back the full frame but apparently not

K

 

[gpburdell]

Very interesting. Just tried it here too.

In Lightroom I was able to "Reset" the crop and get to the original 4:3 in the RAW file. Lightroom displayed that the RAW had been cropped and showed the crop on-screen when in the Develop module. I was able to reset/remove the crop. (LR5.6 on Mavericks, E-M10).

I generally never shoot cropped since I hate throwing away image data, but it now appears I can do so while shooting R+J and have the ability to get jpg out of camera and still go back to an uncropped "digital negative" if needed.

 

[wjiang]

ORF files should have the original data. Depending on your raw converter though, you may have to modify the EXIF data using something like EXIF Tools to reset the crop information before it will restore the original 4:3 data in the converter.

 

[fortwodriver]

In Aperture, try copying and pasting metadata from a 4:3 image onto the 3:2 image... That may bring back the original frame.

 

[CCRoo]

I'm working with RAW files. Nice to know there is a clean solution for this in Lightroom. Is there really none in Aperture?

 

[kevinparis]

It is odd as I am sure Aperture used to allow you to see the whole RAW... maybe something changed either in Aperture or how Oly write the RAW...

K

 

[Matero]

It is odd as I am sure Aperture used to allow you to see the whole RAW... maybe something changed either in Aperture or how Oly write the RAW...

K

I also think it's odd. I'm 99% sure one can see whole RAW in Aperture. Not able to verify right now but I'll also look this when back home tomorrow.

 

[fortwodriver]

Have you tried re-doing the preview? the preview you're working from may be locked into the other format...

I can't duplicate the problem.

 

[Matero]

I also think it's odd. I'm 99% sure one can see whole RAW in Aperture. Not able to verify right now but I'll also look this when back home tomorrow.

I have to admit that I remembered wrong or something changed as Kevin also already said. I was pretty sure that Aperture could convert 3:2 or other cropped images to original full image RAW (Olympus RAW) (without hacking files with EXIF tools) But apparently this is NOT the case according to my short study and tests. Well, Olympus Viewer 3 could easily do that, so there is a workaround, even without Lightroom.

But now I regret even less my painful change over to Lightroom

 

[barry13]

RawTherapee has no trouble with in-camera digital zoom, etc.
Maybe darktable (Mac, Linux) would work too.

Barry


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