Review Quick Review on Panasonic G9

ralf-11

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The G9 is a lot easier to use than the GX85. It has easy to reach controls and a lot of the poor ergonomic design of eariler bodies has been addressed.

Image Quality is good tho I did not detect a huge increase over the 16 Mpix sensor in the GX85. For landscapes or other subjects including the sky, you will need to bracket just like other small sensor cameras with low dynamic range (and sometimes even a full format camera).

The G9 is a very large body, and while easy to hold, the size means that the major benefit of the m32 format no longer exists.

Unfortunately, the G9 seems riddled with quality control problems. The rear LCD has artifacts, photo transfer via USB no longer works on mine, and the WiFi transfer that took me so many hours to setup no longer works either. I will have to send the body back to the dealer and do without during that process.

Overall, I am not very happy with this very expensive m43 body. Panasonic badly needs a good follow on body to the GX85.
 

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no, the GX9 doesn't really cut it for me - it replaces the GX8 tho

but let's discuss that on a GX9 review...
 

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Unfortunately, the G9 seems riddled with quality control problems. The rear LCD has artifacts, photo transfer via USB no longer works on mine, and the WiFi transfer that took me so many hours to setup no longer works either. I will have to send the body back to the dealer and do without during that process.
It sure sounds like you got a lemon, and I totally understand where you're coming from. Fortunately for me, I've not had these same issues, so my experience with the camera has been much more positive- but some of the points you make I agree 100% with. The 20mp sensor in the camera, as you mention, is good, not great. Compared to my other two cameras (E-M1 mark 1 and GX85), my G9 has obviously more resolution, which helps with the noise at higher ISOs by having a finer noise pattern, and better dynamic range. What I don't really see is an actual difference in high ISO performance, but I'm ok with that given the trade-off of more MP and better dynamic range. Also, as you noted, this camera is large. It's comically big for the average m43 camera, but again, I see it as a positive, as I feel the ergonomics are just about perfect. It's certainly much more comfortable to hold and use for me than either my E-M1 or my GX85 (and if I want small, I have the option of using the GX85). It's hard not to compare it's size to other cameras, such as the fujifilm or sony line, but you have to take into consideration the lens size as well. But either way, this is without a doubt one of the largest (or perhaps the largest?) m43 bodies.

I certainly hope that you get the issues with yours sorted out, because I really do think it's a pretty great camera, but at the end of the day you've got to use what you want to use. Shoot, I didn't like the E-M1 when I first tested it out, then ended up using it for nearly 3 years before I switched over to the G9. Horses for courses, I guess.

On a side note, I really should write a review up myself as I've had this now for almost a year...
 

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The dealer will take it back for an exchange, and I am likely to do that.

I have not had any problems with it take pics - just operational issues and transfer issues... "just"

It should not have these problems however.

Now, comparing it to FF (like a Nikon) - the DR is pretty close; and the only real detriments are noise at high ISO (low light) and say BIF.

The giant lenses for tele and ultra wide for FF still make the G9 setup smaller, but no m43 with a moderate zoom on it (I use the PL 12-60) should be nearly as large as a FF setup. A better GX85 type body with a small hand grip (which could house the battery) is what m43 needs.
 

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I think the size is quite right, the weight isn`t too bad and with a 50-200 it is so well balanced.
The AF is improved compared to GX9 or former models, the AF-C is working and the details of images are stunning. I love this cam and all the direct programmable knobs and wheels.
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The G9 uses a different WiFi chipset than the G/GX85. It supports 5Ghz band, which the earlier cameras did not. It also dropped support for SMB1 file shares even though SMB2 protocols are supposed to be backwardly compatible.

I don't know which chipset they chose, but I found the WiFi on the G9 to be slow, and really hit and miss with connectivity to either the app directly or to/via my LAN (taking forever trying to connect and then failing more than half the time). The G85 and GX85 connect every time in about 5 seconds. The G9 would almost always fail uploading to Lumix Club as well (with some error about destination limits) even though it was connected to the AP. This all in an environment with a very strong mesh WiFi network. I also could never connect to the free Xfinity hotspots available to me.

And while the EVF is bright and sharp, I could never get used to the pincushioning it had. I did like being able to use flash with focus bracketing (via the PC-synch socket), but Panasonic should have never disabled that feature when a flash is mounted. And all of the other crazy design decisions that exist were not addressed.

So, while it does a lot of things marginally better than the GX85, I couldn't justify keeping it, especially with the crippled WiFi.

Hope your replacement is better (but have my doubts about the WiFi).
 

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The G9 was my first experience of mu-43, and by and large it has been a pleasant journey. I’m finding the G9 to be fast to operate, produce excellent images, it fits my not very large hands beautifully. The journey has not been without hikkups, this is in fact my second G9, the first had some of the “rubber” grip material came adrift on the SD card cover, so off to DK AVS for repair. It came back with two of the screws fixing the card cover destroyed. I sold that one and bought another one, that too started shedding bits of rubber. This time I reglued this mostly unnecessary finish with some “super glue” and so far successfully!
However I really like and enjoy using this gem of a camera, it ain’t perfect i.e. some of the controls could be better placed(small nitpick). Battery life I find is very good, but hey carry a spare if you need more!
Compared to my Fujifilm X-H1(similar design) the G9 is much nicer in the hand. A big plus is the quality of Panasonic & Panasonic Leica lenses are superb and already I have maybe too many as indicated by my signature.:doh:
Ideally hope the G9 successor is an evolution not a revolution.
 

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I think the size is quite right, the weight isn`t too bad and with a 50-200 it is so well balanced.
The AF is improved compared to GX9 or former models, the AF-C is working and the details of images are stunning. I love this cam and all the direct programmable knobs and wheels.
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G9 + PLeica 12-60mm @ 1/1000 f4 ISO200
 

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ok, update... I am liking my second G9 body better. It is my 'go to' body except for wt. & size. Ergonomics are good.

I still dislike the low reliability, poor support & lack of USB. Wifi is not really worthwhile for Xfer to my computer.

I am likely to buy a GX9 also to 'replace' the GX85 tho I am sticking with the imperfect replacement claim.

Hear me now, O Panasonic: The battery compartment should be in the handgrip and the handgrip CAN and SHOULD extend as far to the front of the camera body as the smallest lens in the system!!

Otherwise, the body should be as small and light as practicable for m43 - that is the main advantage of the sensor, and insulates the m43 system from FF or APS-C assault.
 

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I dunno if others use the exposure bias facility so often that they want a dedicated knob for it, but I don't. When I need more DR or have questions about the exposure of the subject, I just bang out an exposure bracket sequence and merge or select in post.
 

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I dunno if others use the exposure bias facility so often that they want a dedicated knob for it, but I don't. When I need more DR or have questions about the exposure of the subject, I just bang out an exposure bracket sequence and merge or select in post.
I missed the exposure comp dual on my G9 after my GX8, until someone mentioned assigning to the front dial in aperture mode. Works a treat. Controls shutter speed in nearly all modes, so no confusion when switching between them. I shoot either aperture or manual, so it does exactly the same in both.
 

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I missed the exposure comp dual on my G9 after my GX8, until someone mentioned assigning to the front dial in aperture mode. Works a treat. Controls shutter speed in nearly all modes, so no confusion when switching between them. I shoot either aperture or manual, so it does exactly the same in both.
Yeah I did the same thing. Since that dial is a bit stiffer to move than the back dial I decided to make it EC as well.
 
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