Pups In Baskets

Discussion in 'Black and White' started by gryphon1911, Jul 23, 2015.

  1. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
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    Olympus OMD EM1 & 12-40/2.8 PRO
     
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  2. nzdigital

    nzdigital Mu-43 Regular

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    Wayne
    Hi gryphon1911
    That first shot is great! Makes me smile every time. The dog in the carry pouch is classic. Great capture :bravo-009:

    Both images are so amazingly sharp - is that just the 12-20mm f2.8 unedited, or has it had sharpening applied? if so, what's your sharpening routine?

    Excellent b&w tonal range too btw. Just great stuff.
     
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  3. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    I shot a pretty flat jpg, with sharpening turned down to -1 in camera.
    In post, I do my B&W conversion with onOne Perfect B&W, then back in Lightroom add between a +35 and +50 sharpening with a +25 to +35 detail.
    I shoot a -1 sharpness in camera because I found that even at 0, the in camera jpg engine can be quite aggressive at times and introduce artifacting from oversharpening. I find that Lightroom does a better job at keeping that at a minimum.

    Also, I add in a +20 clarity as well.

    The 12-40 is plenty sharp on it's own, so does not really need a lot of help.
     
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  4. nzdigital

    nzdigital Mu-43 Regular

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    Wayne
    Thanks for the info Andrew

    I might try the -1 sharpening on jpegs as well, although I shoot RAW more often than not.
     
  5. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    Then the sharpening issues would be minimal in your case.
     
  6. nzdigital

    nzdigital Mu-43 Regular

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    Wayne
    Indeed.... although I do shoot RAW + Jpeg occasionally.
     
  7. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    I used to shoot RAW exclusively. The last few years, though - the JPG from almost every camera are exceptional and hold a lot of detail. Unless I have specific need to shoot RAW (I know I will be doing extensive post processing or the lighting is tricky either in exposure or WB) I'm shooting JPG to save workflow time and disc space.
     
  8. nzdigital

    nzdigital Mu-43 Regular

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    Wayne
    I can definitely see the advantages of shooting in jpeg-only in terms of workflow. And now that I use the evf to 'nail' the exposure before I've taken the shot, then I can see my need to shoot RAW diminishing.
    I suppose shooting RAW is in my DNA. Feels very scary to move to a jpeg only workflow - even though logically it makes sense.

    If you dial down sharpness of the jpegs to -1, do you then batch process sharpening back into the jpeg at a default limit in Lightroom on import, or is it a case by case basis?
     
  9. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    I've created several presets for my images that I apply as they are imported. I've ones for APS-C/135 size sensors in JPG and RAW, then another series fir m43 in JPG and RAW as well.

    For the m43, the baseline clarity is +20 and baseline sharpness is +25, detail +25. I then evaluate each one and determine to add more or less based on the subject matter.
     
  10. nzdigital

    nzdigital Mu-43 Regular

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    Wayne
    Thanks Andrew. You've been a great help. Cheers
     
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  11. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    My pleasure. Anytime!!
     
  12. Clint

    Clint Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Apr 22, 2013
    San Diego area, CA
    Clint
    Nice photos and good capture of the times. I remember a time when children used to run Lemonade Stands and they would take cash only!
     
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