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Pro Photo shoot. Captured with GF1

Discussion in 'Panasonic Cameras' started by Alanroseman, Mar 9, 2011.

  1. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

    Dec 21, 2010
    New England
    As I promised myself I would in February, I've been trying to document some of what I see on an everyday basis. Forcing myself to take notice of what's around me through the viewfinder, so to speak.

    I'm sure some of you folks have been involved in a commercial shoot, probably many have not.

    This is a shoot being done for one of my clients. The studio is located in East Providence, RI. The shoot included product, product models, and film work for a commercial.

    I server as MIS for this company, normally I'd appear do my IT thing and move on. Today I decided to pull out the trusty GF1 and give, anyone interested, a little glimpse.

    The full gallery is here:Pro Photo Shoot - Mu-43 Gallery

    Hope you enjoy it...
    Model_Photog.
     
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  2. kytra

    kytra Mu-43 Regular

    126
    Feb 28, 2011
    Good job, you were piggybacking on their lights :) , what if you'd used a longer lens and actually have some better headshots than the main shooter :))
     
  3. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

    Dec 21, 2010
    New England
    I wasn't really trying to shoot the models. Just wanted to show the overall setup for those who may never have seen a shoot...
     
  4. kytra

    kytra Mu-43 Regular

    126
    Feb 28, 2011
    I figured that, was just joking :)

    On a serious side, I have been to 2 weddings when some of my pics were chosen by B&G over the hired shooter. I must say that the hired shooters in those cases were nothing to write home about though (I mean the only things that made them "pro" was the fact that they were getting paid)
     
  5. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

    Dec 21, 2010
    New England
    Unfortunately, that is far too often the case... Weddings seem to be a "start point" for lots of new photogs. Always made me wonder, arguably one of the most important days in someones life, being documented by someone often ill equipped (experience wise) for the job.

    When you see seasoned wedding photog work, you know right away...
     
  6. cucco

    cucco Mu-43 Regular

    129
    Dec 28, 2010
    That being said, I must say, as a wedding photographer, one thing that seriously aggravates me is to have my pics (as the paid photog) ruined because people are looking at the wrong camera when their pic is taken. Nothing is worse than a pic with 2 people - one looking one way, one looking the other.
     
  7. Alan, were you using the 20mm?
    Thanks for the images.
     
  8. I recently argued unsuccessfully against having a paid wedding photographer. It's a lot of money to pay for photos which are probably only going to be posted on facebook anyway. Sorry, I just don't get the whole wedding business.
     
  9. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

    Dec 21, 2010
    New England
    Hi Noel,

    Yes. As a rule when I reach into my overpriced, but well enjoyed, crumpler, the gf1 has the 20mm snapped on it.

    Alan
     
  10. flash

    flash Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Apr 29, 2010
    1 hour from Sydney Australia.
    Gordon
    ## thread hijack ##

    I'm a wedding photographer so I'm totally biased, but...

    The dress get worn once. The food and drink is gone in 6 hours. The ceremony lasts 20 mins. The average bride and groom just remember the blur that was their wedding. The ONLY tangible thing you have at the end of the day is those photos. At least you choose whether they only go on Facebook.

    Personally I find it bizarre that couple would spend 3k on hiring a 60 year old car that they are in for 1 hour and get an uncle with no relevant skill to record their memories of the most important and most expensive day of their lives.

    But that's just me...

    End hijack...

    Gordon
     
  11. DHart

    DHart Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 7, 2010
    Scottsdale, Arizona
    Don
    SO true and well put. Couples that "get it" put good investment into the quality of the images, because that is what will last and will rekindle and satisfy, over and over and over. The rest is gone in an ephemeral poof.
     
  12. icase81

    icase81 Mu-43 Regular

    67
    Feb 22, 2011
    Philly, PA
    We got a friend that was a pro-photographer and still does weddings on the frequent to do ours. It was disappointing. He wouldn't accept money, insisting it was his gift. He did our engagement shots, which turned out wonderful. Being friends, his family was there with him as well, and it seemed that as soon as the wedding started, he forgot he was the photographer and became merely a guest. We were severely disappointed.
     
  13. Djarum

    Djarum Super Moderator

    Dec 15, 2009
    Huntsville, AL, USA
    Jason
    So basically, since the wedding is a blur and the photos will be pot luck, I'm taking I shouldn't get married, LOL.

    (Shh...if my girlfriend sees this, she'll slap me)

    Dj
     
  14. DHart

    DHart Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 7, 2010
    Scottsdale, Arizona
    Don
    Dj... yeah, good one! Actually photos are a lot less "pot luck" when a proven wedding specialist is hired and good money is on the table.
     
  15. I wasn't singling out wedding photography. It is actually be one of the only parts of the industry that produces a tangible product that may be of some long-lasting value. The problem with weddings is that a lot of "good money" is on the the table with very little of it actually buying anything useful. The common phrases "You need this", "everyone does this", and "it's tradition" seem to be very common industry speak to seperate your money from your wallet.
     
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  16. flash

    flash Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Apr 29, 2010
    1 hour from Sydney Australia.
    Gordon
    Haha. Actually you're not completely wrong. It's a blur for you, not me...

    The truth is, that's it's not the photographic skill of the photographer that makes the difference. Any kid straight out of photo school, a photographer from another discipline or even "uncle Bob" may and often do have the skills, photographically, and the gear to shoot a good wedding. What doing this for 20 years gives me is the ability to work with couples and their families. I know what they want, sometimes even if they dont. I know what's coming during a ceremony, so I already have the right lens and settings. I have seen every disaster so I'm not stunned, shocked or surprised. I have a massive investment in the right gear, backup gear and redundancies. And I know how to make your mother and mother in law love me within five minutes of meeting them.

    I know what a "moment" is when I see one, often five seconds before it happens. That's why I get them and others don't.

    It's like sending me to Iraq to shoot with the press. I know how to use a camera but I'd be too busy panicking to use it properly.

    Gordon
     
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  17. DHart

    DHart Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 7, 2010
    Scottsdale, Arizona
    Don
    I totally disagree with your view on the profession. Perhaps you may view your images as having little lasting value. Perhaps you may strive to manipulate people to separate them from their money, but to throw such a negative blanket over the photography profession is wrong, in my view.

    Great portraits are almost priceless to many people and very much provide tangible products of long-lasting value. A lifetime as a professional photographer has taught me this time and time again. Most highly skilled photographers don't need, nor use manipulative words to try "separate people's money from their wallets." The majority of skilled professional photographers would be quite offended to be characterized that way. As with any profession, there are all levels of abilities, skills, and ethics. Professional photographers are no more scam artists than any other highly skilled service/product providers who earn a living by their skills and abilities.

    My personal appreciation for the images I've created, as well as the thanks and appreciation I've received over the years from my clients are my greatest rewards... the good financial compensation just allows me to continually improve what I do and enjoy a good life doing so. This is an honorable profession and one I feel honored to be a part of and I feel quite blessed to have been able to spend my life doing this work.

    There is no more a "problem" with weddings than there is with anything else you can name. The real "problems" in life are to be found with certain individual people, not with industries or professions.
     
  18. Kalieaire

    Kalieaire Mu-43 Rookie

    18
    Feb 6, 2011
    LOLLERCATS.. :p I totally feel you on this bro.
     
  19. mauve

    mauve Mu-43 Top Veteran

    892
    Mar 9, 2010
    Paris, France
    Having married just 2 years ago, I can vouch for this. And because I married in winter, I hired 2 photographers. One for D-Day, because his portfolio showed an impressive ability to 'get' situations, and I had family members who had hired him previously and could testify of this. But I wasn't impressed by his 'studio' or portraits, and in case it would rain, I wanted good posed pictures, so I booked another, more traditional photographer, who knew how to light a shooting for a studio session. And my wife and I are perfectly happy with both results.

    We rented a beautiful Jaguar XJS V6 for the full day (10AM - 10PM) - drove us anywhere we wished, did taxi for some guests and even made a kind of merry-go-round for everyone wishing to know the feeling... Money well spent, wonderful memories for everyone, very kind driver !

    Cheers,
     
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  20. Alanroseman

    Alanroseman Super Moderator Emeritus

    Dec 21, 2010
    New England
    The actual video and images from this shoot have now been released for the show in Las Vegas.

    Scroll to the bottom of the home page, they are in the left hand corner video on the left is the advertisement, on the right for the graphic design trade.

    http://www.visualmagnetics.com

    Cheers, Alan