Pen F Tri-X settings question.

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by So Thankful, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. So Thankful

    So Thankful Mu-43 Veteran

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    Does anyone know what settings Olympus used to get the Tri-X mode in the Pen F?
    I would like to try and emulate it in my E-M5 MK II and E-M5 cameras.

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  2. TNcasual

    TNcasual Mu-43 All-Pro

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    From what I have gleaned, it may not be possible to get exactly the same results. The pen F has multiple levels of grain, contrast, shading and more available color filters with levels of intensity.

    That being said, there may be a combination on the other models that is close.
     
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  4. So Thankful

    So Thankful Mu-43 Veteran

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    I was thinking that may be the case.

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  5. So Thankful

    So Thankful Mu-43 Veteran

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    Unfortunately I don't use Adobe programs. I have had MAJOR issues with them so I switched to ACDSee.

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  6. Klorenzo

    Klorenzo Mu-43 All-Pro

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    Lorenzo
    Steve Huff called it "monochrome -> mode II" and I think it is Pen-F only.

    http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2016/01/26/the-new-olympus-pen-f-camera-review-just-wow/

    On the E-M10 could be similar to Art5 (grainy film) -> Mode 1 or 2 or Art10 (Dramatic) -> Mode 2. Then you can tune it with Shadows&Highlights curve.
    To customize a mode you need to go in Art mode but later you can select it from the SCP with the last customization.

    Or even the simple "Monotone" mode with Shadows&Highlights tuning plus contrast and B&W filter from the SCP.

    Thanks for the post, it was fun to experiment.
     
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  7. robcee

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    Rob Campbell
    yeah, it's a new processing mode with a little extra control.

    Still, you can get close to it with your current machine.

    Put 'er in Monotone. Contrast: +1, Shadow/Highlight: -2/+1, Sharpness: -1 (I find the builtin jpeg compression a little harsh), Gradation: Low-key.

    Try it out, I find it does a pretty good job of high contrast, heavy darks similar to a tri-x or ilford delta.

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  8. barry13

    barry13 Super Moderator; Photon Wrangler

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    I've also seen people recommend the following for High-contrast Mono:
    Mono mode, Contrast+2, Shadow-1, Gradation: low key
     
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  9. robcee

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    Rob Campbell
    yeah, likely pretty similar. I think the key here is, Low Key. (get it? I'm leaving now.)
     
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  10. So Thankful

    So Thankful Mu-43 Veteran

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    Thanks everybody for the tips. I will play around with it and see what I can come up with.
     
  11. saladin

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    jason
    It may also be the extra detail (even if only slight) of the 20mp sensor that adds to the look. I was reading that the new Fuji sensor is what allowed them to develop "Acros" simulation where it didn't work with the 16mp sensor.


    Either way, i cant wait to see Pen F mono samples from new owners. You can get great results from current Oly's, so if the F is even better.......
     
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  12. saladin

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    I have basically this (except sharp at +1 and overlaid with an orange filter ) assigned to myset1 on my em1 for casual outdoor mono shots. Of course, the tone curve setting doesnt save, you have to adjust that each time which is somewhat annoying.
     
  13. wonglp

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    Here's a snapshot of monochrome II with different color filters (processed with OV3 v2.0 beta), no shading, no Highlights/Shadows control, no grains. Just to give a feel. With a preproduction sample Pen F. While I can't really advice on getting TriX as I don't really shoot film, hope the below and also the amount of customization (color filters, 3 grains levels, shadows & highlights) will allow you to have something close to your taste. Hope this helps

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    And here's the same jpeg file in color (post processed).

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  14. saladin

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    jason
    Great post
     
  15. robcee

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    Rob Campbell
    Whadya mean the tone curve doesn't save? I have a similar setup (mentioned in my post above) saved to MySet 2. It absolutely saves the tone curve.

    Try saving it again?
     
  16. saladin

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    You're right! Thats bizarre. For the last month ive been entering the curve when needed, lol. I must have saved it in default curve without knowing and assumed it wasnt saveable.



    ......... Butts head against wall........
     
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  17. Klorenzo

    Klorenzo Mu-43 All-Pro

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    I also noticed that WB makes a lot of difference on the B&W results. Color creator mode, with zero saturation, does too, but the difference is really small.

    Another option to get a B&W in camera is to use in-camera RAW development. You have custom 1 and custom 2 to save and reuse customized settings. You can update the preview with the Rec button.
     
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  18. Ian.

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    There are plenty of alternatives to Adobe stuff. I prefer to do this sort of thing in PP, as you have time to choose the type, and all the settings. If you install Gimp and it's amazing G'MIC plug in, you'll find a great choice of filters to suit all sorts of preferences. And it doesn't cost anything.

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  19. So Thankful

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    What is "Gimp"?
     
  20. barry13

    barry13 Super Moderator; Photon Wrangler

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