Pany 12-35 and 25

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by Ig7, Nov 28, 2012.

  1. Ig7

    Ig7 Mu-43 Veteran

    Aug 24, 2011
    OK, I know a similar thread was started a few month ago, however, I was wondering if now that more people had a chance to use 12-35, if they find that it replaces their Pany 25?
  2. meyerweb

    meyerweb Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Sep 5, 2011
    I had already sold my 25, because I prefer the FOV of the 20.

    But more generally, the zoom has replaced my 20 for most uses other than very dimly lit interiors, where the 1 1/2 stop advantage of the prime still offers some real advantage. I think the same would be true, for me, of the 25. f/2.8 is fast enough a great deal of the time, but not always. And 2 stops is 2 stops. If the zoom would have you shooting at ISO3200, the prime would let you shoot at 800, with all the inherent advantages of lower ISO. Assuming, of course, shooting wide open gives you sufficient DOF.
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  3. dav1dz

    dav1dz Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Nov 6, 2012
    I don't think it's possible for everyone but certain uses perhaps.

    I have skipped the 12-35 though, because I have the 25.
  4. jloden

    jloden Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 15, 2012
    Hunterdon County, NJ
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    I'll put it this way - my last trip, I brought the 12-35mm, 25mm, 45mm and 100-300mm lenses. At the end of the trip, I had used the 25mm for twice as many "keeper" shots as the 12-35mm

    Personally I see the 25mm as complimentary to the 12-35mm especially for low light use. Some of my favorite shots were night indoor shots with the 25mm wide open at f/1.4 and the ISO at 1600-2500, so the 12-35mm at f/2.8 would have resulted in lost or at least very noisy shots by comparison.

    FWIW, my basic travel kit is 12-35mm, 35-100mm (brand new lens, but assuming I hang onto it long term), and 25mm. Then add or substitute specialty lenses like a macro, UWA or long telephoto as needed.
  5. arad85

    arad85 Mu-43 Veteran

    Aug 16, 2012
    I hardly use my 25 now I have the 12-35. The 3ish stop IS makes the 12-35 more versatile for everything but moving objects and extreme DoF on a Panasonic camera IMHO...
  6. krugorg

    krugorg Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jul 18, 2011
    Minnesota USA
    Interesting question!

    My personal take, is that they are just too different for one to replace the other.

    I think the advantages of the 12-35 are the weather-sealing on the OM-D and sharpness, especially on the wide end. I find that I am not missing out on anything when using the lens from 12-20mm, versus using the Oly 12 or Panasonic 20/1.7. Do you feel the same way @20mm, Irina?

    There is a review out there that shows that the 12-35 is not as sharp @ 25mm/f4 as the PL25. Also, the f1.4 speed on the PL25 can be very useful, especially for indoor shots.
  7. Ig7

    Ig7 Mu-43 Veteran

    Aug 24, 2011
    Agree. I find that unless I am in indoors and low light situation, I rarely use my 20. Any other time I dont see much difference between 20 and 12-35 in terms of sharpnesss in my unprofessional judgement. Thats why I am thinking about replacing the 20 with 25 for the extra stop and faster focusing. The times I used the 20 to take some quick party shots I missed a lot because of focus hunting.

    Thank you everyone for your opinions.
  8. LeoS

    LeoS Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Aug 6, 2012
    This is unscientific: but I feel that even though the 25 is brighter, the AF hunts a lot more than the 12-35mm especially in low light condition.
  9. Chrisnmn

    Chrisnmn Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 26, 2012
    Auckland, New Zealand
    Real Name:
    I personally think they are complimentary same as with the P20. After using the P12/35 which is an stellar zoom lens. probably one of the best zoom lens ive personally used. But then for portability yet maintain the quality. I decided on the P20 instead of the P25.
  10. Ig7

    Ig7 Mu-43 Veteran

    Aug 24, 2011
    Got my 25 tonight and ran a quick test. I might have a bad 25 copy as I cannt really tell a difference between 12-35 and 25
    Both images shot at 25 FL and 2.8 to be fair

    12-35 at 2.8



  11. Fred49

    Fred49 Mu-43 Regular

    Feb 24, 2010

    i sent back my 12-35, because i was having the opposite view ( indoor and dark skin, no problem on white skin )
  12. hankbaskett

    hankbaskett Mu-43 Regular

    Aug 21, 2012
    I have both, and If you're planning on shooting at f/2.8 or above, probably no point in having both.

    Personally, I have plenty of use for the speed of the 25mm at < f/2.8, so no, I don't find that the 12-35 replaces it.
  13. Ig7

    Ig7 Mu-43 Veteran

    Aug 24, 2011
    I only used 2.8 to compare he two.
  14. Ig7

    Ig7 Mu-43 Veteran

    Aug 24, 2011
    Based on your experience with both, would you mind sharing as to when you use 25 over the zoom? Your experience with both will be very helpful
  15. mattia

    mattia Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 3, 2012
    The Netherlands
    They're different kinds of lenses. Some of it down to taste. I don't have either, but my 35L and 50/1.4 (Contax) have a higher percentage of keepers than the (fantastic, wish MFT had something as good with the same range) 24-105L